Talk:Racing thoughts

Psychology 101 Assesment
This article only shows the defenition for racing thoughs and doesnt show ways to prevent or ways to treat this disorder.--Jennings.thomas14 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

This article has nothing to do with Bipolar Disorder.

This article does have aremedy for racing thoughts that are created by sleep apnea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.108.206 (talk) 14:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I had personal experience and helped create this wiki entry. I had corrective surgery for a deviated septum and my racing thoughts ceased almost immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.108.206 (talk) 10:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Tis article has been hijacked.. I wrtoe this to explain sleep apnea and my experience of insomina and nasal surgery. It has nothing to do with bipolar disorders, bee stings , or psychiatry 101 - most of the article needs to be diregarded and deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.108.206 (talk) 17:46, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Hypothyroidism
I can't see a citation regarding the association with hypothyroidism, and racing thoughts are definitely more likely to be a symptom of hyperthyroidism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imogenpickles (talk • contribs) 10:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

schizophrenia?
In the Examination of Anomalous Self-experience, which was "developed on the basis of self-descriptions obtained from patients suffering from schizophrenia spectrum disorders," there seems to be a similar phenomenon called thought pressure:


 * 1.3 Thought Pressure (C.1.3)
 * A sense of many thoughts (or images) with different,
 * unrelated or remotely related meaning/content that pop
 * up and disappear in quick sequences without the patient
 * being able to suppress or guide this appearance/disappearance
 * of (ever new) contents of consciousness. Alternatively,
 * all these thoughts seem to the patient to occur
 * at the same time (simultaneously). This symptom involves
 * a lack of control, many changing thoughts, but
 * also a lack of a common theme and hence a loss of coherence
 * or meaning for the patient. The semantic content
 * of the thoughts may be distressing but also neutral or
 * even trivial, without any special personal significance.
 * Often, this phenomenon is associated with spatialization
 * of experience (1.8) where thoughts are experienced
 * in a spatialized way, and sometimes even with a subtle
 * acoustic quality (1.7).
 * Examples
 * ‘My thoughts are pressing on the skull from the inside.’
 * ‘It feels as if a swarm of bees was in my head.’
 * ‘My thinking is like an intersection of freeways, with a constant
 * zoom! zoom! noise from the racing cars.’ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beneficii (talk • contribs) 19:46, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.nordlandssykehuset.no/getfile.php/NLSH_bilde%20og%20filarkiv/Pulsen/Kunnskapsbygging/Tekstfiler/EASE.pdf

It is also referenced in 1.1 Thought Interference, which is said to often build up to thought pressure.

Of course, the key point here in schizophrenia is that the different thoughts are NOT related. How could we incorporate this into the article? Is this a different phenomenon? --Beneficii (talk) 13:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thought pressure is also a basic symptom that is associated with psychosis:


 * Thought pressure, ie, a self-reported “chaos” of unrelated thoughts (“If I am stressed out my mind gets chaotic and I have great problems thinking straight. Too many thoughts come up at once.”)

http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/35/1/5/T1.expansion.html

--Beneficii (talk) 14:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Neutrality Disputes within the "Treatment" section

 * 1) The treatment section fails to identify that treating the underlying causal condition is the best treatment for the racing thoughts.
 * 2) The author starts the section by presuming that medication is not desired. "There are many ways to calm racing thoughts without medication." This is functionally prescribing treatment and that treatment is NOT medication. This needs significant rework to prevent harm from befalling unwitting consumers of this page. The harm I'm concerned about is failure to seek care for an underlying medical condition. (To be clear, psychiatric conditions are medical conditions.)
 * 3) Furthermore, the author of this section co-opts responsibly worded passages from the original source materials morphs them into irresponsible statements that assert potentials as if they are universal facts, contrary to the source material. Here is one example of what I mean:

From CalmClinic: "Exercise may also be a valuable tool for racing thoughts, primarily because when you exercise it doesn't matter that your thoughts are racing. ... When your body tires out, your mind tends to tire with it."

In article: "Exercise is also a very productive way to diminish racing thoughts. As the body tires out, so does the mind."

The text of the treatment section, versus the calmclinic article is highly inaccurate and jumps to conclusions not stated in the article. a) Calmclinic in no way asserts that racing thoughts are diminished. Instead calmclinic asserts that it won't matter, which is a reduction in the stress incurred, not a reduction in the amount of racing thoughts. b) Calmclinic was careful to state the relationship between tired body and tired mind as a tendency, therefore correlation, not as a causal relationship. This section fails to account for this, and also fails to discuss the currently implied correlation between tired minds and diminished racing thoughts, it makes a leap of faith on that point, and again, it's not a strictly causal relationship so any corrections will need to frame it in a correlative manner, not a causal one. FWIW: I know first hand that with ADHD and GAD (I have both) that a tired body doesn't necessarily yield a tired mind -- and implicitly therefore diminished racing thoughts. In fact as I write this, I currently have both a tired body and tired mind yet still have racing thoughts that are depriving me of sleep. So again the correlation between tired mind and racing thoughts, while a strong one, is not a causal relationship.

In a causal nutshell:

Tired Body ≠ Tired Mind ≠ Diminished Racing Thoughts.

In a correlative nutshell:

For most people, a tired body tends to give way to a tired mind. And, a tired mind will tend to have fewer racing thoughts.

I strongly recommend removing, or significantly reducing the volume of text in this section until a proper psychiatric authority has had a chance to document the actual treatment options, both pharmacological and psychotherapy. 75.73.76.99 (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program course assignment
This article is the subject of an educational assignment at St. Charles Community College supported by WikiProject Psychology and the Wikipedia Ambassador Program&#32;during the 2011 Q3 term. Further details are available on the course page.

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