Talk:Radio London

Dab

 * Normal disambig page

why isn't this page a normal disambig page: ie: various versions of radio london with 1 line descriptions. Jem 22:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed some blatant untruths from the article.


 * "...which extended the broadcasting exclusion zone from the three mile limit originally imposed"

No way. Doesn't matter how far the limit is extended, you can always broadcast from outside it and be heard, unless it's extended so far that you don't have any international waters left, and that's not only illogical but also illegal. Actually the 3-mile limit WAS later extended to 12 miles, but Radio Caroline and Laser 558 just broadcast from outside. The real reason the Act worked was because it was illegal to supply the ships from Britain or advertise on them, but (as Radio Caroline was quick to point out when it defied the Act) it didn't make the stations themselves illegal.


 * "government run BBC..."

You wouldn't happen to work for Fox News, would you? The BBC is ABSOLUTELY NOT Government-run. Never has been, God willing never will be.


 * (BBC Radio London): At the initial launch the government used the same name and broadcasting format as the pirate Radio London to exploit the success of the original station...

Absolutely no evidence to support this. BBC Radio 1 did have a similar sound to Wonderful Radio London, because some of its management and of course several DJs were poached by the BBC.

Lee M 03:38, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

POV non-radio legal squabble removed from article

 * See article Litton Industries. The logo used by the pirate radio station Wonderful Radio London, as "rl" is a modification of the trademark legally registered and used by the US manufacturer Litton Industries ("li"), before it was acquired by a defence contractor. See the second page which displays the original Litton Industries logo at Amazon (click through to second page): http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0945903510/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-0480130-4859126#reader-page

Litton used its logo on a wide variety of products and services. Therefore for a non-broadcasting entity in London that is unrelated to the Wonderful Radio London pirate broacaster from Texas, to claim this identity will require specific source documentation, but none has been provided. This may be difficult since the original use of the logo by the Texas pirate broadcaster appears to be an unlicensed modification of the legally registered logo of Litton Industries in the USA.

(Removed from article): Current owners of the Radio London trademark
Since 2002, Radio London Ltd has owned the UK trademark Radio London.

The former owners of Studio Anorak, Chris and Mary Payne set up the company. Mary Payne (nee Wingert) was responsible for setting up the [Knees Club], a schoolgirl fan club relating to the offshore station Wonderful Radio London.

The Studio Anorak website was launched March 25 1999. Soon after acquiring the domain name radiolondon.co.uk October 13 1999. The original intention was to dedicate a site to Radio London, both the original station and the subsequent RSL revivals. (The Web Archive link here shows their original intentions and backs this claim.)

The Paynes were involved as fan volunteers for some of the RSL stations but were not involved in the main broadcast side. After some disagreements relating to the future direction of Radio London between the Paynes and Ray Anderson (whose company(s) originally owned the trademark Radio London and set up the RSL broadcasts before being wound up - it is said that the 1997-2001 broadcasts led to Anderson being made bankrupt) the Paynes set up a new Radio London Ltd and set about gaining ownership of all lapsed trademarks relating to same.

This they acquired in 2002 and since this time have continued to run the tribute site whilst renaming their Studio Anorak broadcast engineering consultancy Radio London.

However, there sill exists a state of open warfare between the Paynes and Anderson as the new Big L was forced to give up the name Radio London after a legal battle with the name.


 * UK Trade Mark Office
 * Offcom - UK's Radio Licensing body


 * This material is controversial, lacks sources and is POV and does not belong to this article. The links are too general and do not supply any supporting information or documentation.

Dab
I propose that Wonderful Radio London be moved here, and this page be trimmed down into a conventional dab page and moved to Radio London (disambiguation). Or, leave it here but trim it. Any comments? --kingboyk 13:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Disagree. If you do that you will totally confuse matters because the BBC is British in origin and WRL was Texas in origin and while one was legal the other was declared illegal under British law. (I am stating British facts, not wishing to get into the question of international law.) Consequently the BBC and WRL and its revivals only have some cross-associated relationships, but no core origin. Easy Radio London is unrelated to either the BBC or WRL
 * What's legality got to do with it? I'm talking about proper formatting per Wikipedia guidelines, and having this page occupied by the article that most readers might expect to find here. --kingboyk 13:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)