Talk:Radio Wars/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Starting the review
I will be going through each of the criteria in order. I reserve the right to return to earlier comments/sections and revise/add to them until the review is finished. Unless otherwise indicated, maintain existing wikilinks and formatting. The review process should take about a week. If needed, I will allow an additional week for any requested changes to be made before making my decision.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

A good article is&mdash;  :
 * (a) ; and
 * (b).

Fix dablink on Hyde Park.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 14:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 1
Infobox
 * 1) After Cover insert a line with For GA it does not need to be completed, but it should be left in the template for others to use.
 * 2) In Singles section, studio
 * 1) In Singles section, studio
 * 1) In Singles section, studio

Lead
 * 1) Grammar, spelling & expression.
 * 2) All but one track was produced by Dan Grech-Marguerat, and recorded at several different recording studios from September 2007 to July 2008. > Recorded at four different studios, it was produced by Dan Grech-Marguerat except one track by Howling Bells. Precision.
 * 3) Songwriting > Song writing. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) It's actually Songwriting Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) My bad, my spell checker (set to Australian English) prefers Song writing or Song-writing. I've just checked on-line to find Songwriting is okay for British English.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Rewrite "from chaos, optimism, unity, and the technological revolution". The 'from' should be paired with a 'to' when exemplifying a "wide range of topics".
 * 7) Most of the songs were demoed in Australia, with one being recorded in Melbourne. The bulk of the recording took place in Los Angeles, although three songs were recorded in London. > Most songs were demoed in Australia with one recorded in Melbourne, three in London and the rest in Los Angeles. Brevity.
 * 8) The album was the first Howling Bells release issued in North America. > The album was their first North American release. The accuracy of this claim is to be substantiated later.
 * 9) Three singles were issued from Radio Wars, but all failed to chart. Avoid 'release' repetition.
 * 10) Australian Charts > Australian Albums Chart Leave pipe.
 * 11) It contains ten tracks with "Ms Bell's Song/Radio Wars Theme" listed as one track, but essentially it is two separate pieces of music. There is also an additional hidden track, "To LA", the existence of which is omitted entirely from both the booklet and the back cover. > Although listed as containing ten tracks, the sixth, "Ms Bell's Song"/"Radio Wars Theme", is two separate pieces of music. Additionally, a hidden track, "To LA", is omitted from the booklet and back cover.
 * 12) During this period, Howling Bells supported The Duke Spirit, Mercury Rev, Razorlight, and Coldplay on tour. Opening phrase is misleading, it implies the 'period' referred to is the week since the UK release. This needs clarification.
 * 13) Manual of Style.
 * 14) Fopp Records > Fopp record store or Fopp store. Otherwise it sounds like their recording/distribution label and should be in the Infobox!
 * 15) retail outlet, Fopp Records Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Background shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Song writing.
 * 2) the first album was conducted > Howling Bells (album), their debut album, was provided Wikilink first appearance. Refer to by title for precision & clarity.
 * 3) Radio Wars was collaborated upon in the rehearsal studio when the band could find time. > For Radio Wars, members collaborated in the rehearsal studio whenever they could find time.
 * Yet, much of the album was written separately on laptops among the four, while they toured the release of the debut album. > While touring to support their debut album, the four members wrote much of the new material on laptops.
 * 1) I'm leaving Yet, in there because this sentence is emphasizing the previous one. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) at Juanita and Joel's parents' house in Australia and selected the songs that they would work on.[3][7] They recorded fifteen to twenty demos of their new material at a country home in Victoria.[8][9] > at the Stein's parental home in country Victoria – they selected which songs to record as demos using the home's studio. Note: don't wikilink Victoria (common term). You may have to adjust your references here.
 * 3) Sorry, but this is not good. I'm leaving it as it is unless you can come up with something better. This may come as a surprise to you but most people outside of Australia don't know where Victoria is, so it will stay. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) It still needs to be re-written, you need to clarify whether 'Juanita and Joel's parents' house in Australia' is the same place as 'a country home in Victoria'? Victoria can stay linked if you like.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Ideas for two of the tracks, "Radio Wars Theme" and "Digital Hearts", and eventually the name of the album were spawned at this writing and recording location.[9] They were conceived after attempts to tune in to certain radio stations failed to produce a regular signal, and instead generated unstable and erratic frequencies. This is what they referred to as, Radio Wars.[9][10] > Attempts to tune in to radio stations to capture a regular signal generated unstable and erratic reception – referred to as 'radio wars' by the band. This provided ideas for two tracks, "Radio Wars Theme" and "Digital Hearts" and the album's name. Note: 'radio wars' is not italicised – its a made up phrase. You'll have to adjust the refs.
 * 6) I'm throwing of the in there, otherwise it makes me think of two-track recording. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) The last paragraph in this section needs chronological context i.e. when did they leave Bella Union, how long a gap before they signed with Independiente, or with Nettwerk?
 * 8) Howling Bells departed from Bella Union, the UK record label that had released their eponymous debut album.[1] > Howling Bells departed from the UK record label, Bella Union, which had issued their earlier material.[1]
 * 9) I don't like this. It's fine as it is. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) The band declined the option of signing to a major label for the release of Radio Wars.[6] Discussions with major labels had affirmed that their objective was for the band to continue to write the same kind of music from their first record.[3] The band opposed the idea of someone dictating to them the type of material that they should be creating.[3] > Discussions with major labels confirmed the objective was for the band to continue to write the same kind of music.[3] However, the band opposed being dictated what type of material they should create and declined to sign with a major label for Radio Wars.[6] You may have to fix refs.
 * 11) I don't like this either. This first sentence seems as though it was snipped off at the start. You go straight into Discussions with major labels confirmed without properly introducing the outcome first. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Try The band's discussions with major labels confirmed the objective was for the group to continue to write the same kind of music.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) Howling Bells instead brokered a deal with, Independiente, seeing as the record label's main focus was for music rather than money.[2] > Howling Bells brokered a deal with Independiente since its main focus was on the music rather than money.[2]
 * 14) This is confusing. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) The group maintained their relationship with Liberation and released the album in Australia.[11] > The group maintained their relationship with Liberation, which released the album in Australia.[11]
 * 16) They also signed with Nettwerk Music Group and secured their first release in North America.[12] > They signed with Nettwerk Music Group and secured their first release in North America.[12] Note: Compare this with the statement in the Lead, "The album was the first Howling Bells release issued in North America". There is a difference in meaning, which may have a problem at Criterion 2.
 * 17) You're getting into semantics. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I'm striving for clarity. The Lead claims that the album is the first release into North America for the band. Later information indicates they issued a free single, "Into the Chaos" which may have been available in North America in October or November 2008 before the band signed with Nettwerk and ahead of the album's release there in July 2009. This whole chronology is unclear.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, you're not being honest, at this point in the review we haven't reached the Singles section yet, so clearly you're not talking about that. These are the two sentences which you have designated as being problematic. Explain to me the difference in meaning between the two.
 * The album was the first Howling Bells release issued in North America.
 * They signed with Nettwerk Music Group and secured their first release in North America. Mattchewbaca (meow) 02:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) Please refrain from making personal comments, I don't mind explaining my criticism but I don't appreciate a character attack on my honesty. Lead must summarise the whole article not just this section, if the Lead says that the album is the first release into North America this means that any UK/Aus singles or the previous album were not issued there before. This section says they signed with Nettwerk and then had their first release in North America: here the word 'release' could include singles, EPs or albums but doesn't specify Radio Wars as the very first into North America. Once again you need to clarify this both here and in the Lead. By referring to the Singles section I'm attempting to get the whole article improved and each section consistent: they are not stand alone entities.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Recording
 * 1) Note: I like to see each prose sub-section refer back to the article title as quickly as possible. Hence the first sentence would be In early September 2007, work on Radio Wars started when the band re-recorded and self-produced, "Cities Burning Down", at Sing Sing Studios, Melbourne.[13]
 * 2) It eventually became the second track on the album. It had appeared twice before as a b-side entitled, "This City's Burning", on the 2006 single releases for "Low Happening" and "Wishing Stone".[14] They felt it needed more life, so extra instrumentation was added to deliver a bigger sound.[8] > Previously titled "This City's Burning", it had appeared as the b-side on two 2006 singles, "Low Happening" and "Wishing Stone".[14] They felt the song needed more life, so extra instrumentation was added to deliver a bigger sound.[8] As "Cities Burning Down", it became the album's second track. Adjust refs as needed.
 * 3) Why is this better? Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) It clarifies the sequence of events.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) If that's the case the first sentence here should precede the previous one. Mattchewbaca (meow) 02:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Check past tense. e.g. Howling Bells were seeking a producer that had experience working on electronic-sounding records.[15] > Howling Bells sought a producer that had experience working on electronic-sounding records.[15] Other examples may exist in the text.
 * 7) he could be somebody to help them create their new sound > he could help develop their new sound
 * 8) expressed what he thought he could add > expressed what he could add
 * 9) In January 2008, Howling Bells started recording Radio Wars at The Sound Factory, in Los Angeles.[1] > In January 2008, Howling Bells recorded more tracks for Radio Wars, now working at The Sound Factory, in Los Angeles.[1] Didn't they already start in early September 2007?
 * 10) The band wanted a different recording experience than they had previously had, which is why they chose L.A. for writing and recording their new album.[18][19] > The band chose Los Angeles as they wanted a recording experience which was different from previous sessions.[18][19]
 * 11) They were determined not to make the same record over again.[6][20] Similar idea has already been made in regards to choosing Indepediente as their record label.
 * 12) For the band, Radio Wars was about Howling Bells, as a unit, being optimistic and united in spirit.[21] > Radio Wars was about Howling Bells being optimistic and united in spirit.[21] Decrease redundancy: band = Howling Bells, as a unit = united.
 * 13) percussion parts were more distinct on this album than was the case previously. > percussion parts were more distinct than his previous work.
 * 14) Grech-Marguerat experimented considerably, in an effort to bring more life to each song.
 * 15) The band often struggled with ideas that were presented by him, and the recording sessions were burdened by occasional arguments. Though, Juanita attested that it ultimately worked out. Sounds like they didn't work well together: contradicts Joel's quote about it being "really, really good". Needs to be re-written or the quote is not representative of the relationship or both?
 * 16) Five demos created for Radio Wars did not make it onto the project. > Five of the demos created for Radio Wars were not used on the final product. Clarify.
 * 17) Just over half the songs that appeared on the album were recorded in L.A. Them being: Awkward.
 * 18) MoS "Ms Bell's Song" / "Radio Wars Theme"
 * 19) I don't care what MoS says, that's not the way the track is listed. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 20) What about Into The Chaos instead of "Into the Chaos", HOWLING BELLS instead of Howling Bells or RADIO WARS instead of Radio Wars? Aren't these also on the album cover? MoS is there for WP style not for the band, record label, or my personal choice.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) Do you ever drive 5 mph over the speed limit? ...so what. Mattchewbaca (meow) 02:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 22) Here, have a look at these nuts:
 * Ignore all rules
 * What "Ignore all rules" means Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) were recorded at AIR Studios, London.[13]
 * 2) Delink Session musicians (common musical term).
 * 3) When I run the article through Peer review it suggests I add more wikilinks as it is, so it can stay. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) were enlisted to provide string and brass instruments to a number of the tracks.[13] and The string and brass arrangements were recorded at Mayfair Studios Combine these separated sentences into one simplified sentence describing the same idea: string and brass tracks.
 * 5) Also, while back in London, Joel, had an idea for a song that he had written himself. The rest of the band liked it and wanted it be included into the final product. Arrangements were made to go back into a non-specified London studio and record it.[16] The song was a 50's style ballad entitled, "How Long", which became the final listed track on the album.[1][13] Long-winded, trim into a single sentence.

Singles shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The whole first paragraph is confusing: "Radio Wars was preceded by two singles ... through the band's website". Which single was issued first, when & where? How many before the album? Does charting exclude position on best-of-2009 playlist? Does not charting in Australia include positions higher than No. 50? "Digital Hearts" was released in May 2009, did the band sign to Nettwerk after its release? If "Into the Chaos" was released for free on their website was it available in North America in October (presumably in 2008)?
 * 2) Combine Juanita and Picchio had put the song together from other bits and pieces. It was originally an electronic track without melody or vocals.[7] into one clear sentence.
 * 3) video comprised of
 * 4) "Cities Burning Down", the oldest song from the album, was presented on two occasions prior as a b-side.[2][14] Juanita and Moule, in conjunction, created the music first, and the lyrics developed out of the instrumental's dark sound.[2] Some of this has been covered earlier (see Recording), so trim it to present new info in a single sentence.
 * 5) by three days, The Sun, named An extra space in there.
 * 6) and shot in December 2008 in London. Precise day in December not needed, if its obvious that we're still talking about 2008 then lose the year.
 * 7) Consider "In 2010, "Cities Burning Down", was one of many tracks that was featured..." Confusion: why is many italicised? Does this mean many Howling Bells tracks were featured but only "Cities" is listed or that many artists tracks were used, in which case the Howling Bells track can hardly be 'featured' unless it was used repeatedly. From what I read I'd go for In 2010, "Cities Burning Down", was one of over 100 tracks by various artists that appeared
 * 8) "Digital Hearts" embodies the message of the album's title – the technological struggle in the new age.[21] The lyrics for it were influenced by Juanita and Moule's inability to tune in a tangible radio signal at their demoing location. Some of this was described earlier, in getting the album's name, trim this to a single sentence presenting new information.
 * 9) A music video for the single was produced but never released. It was directed by Dan Lowe for Partizan and filmed on 22 April 2009 in London. If not released then this is superfluous information that should be severely trimmed if not deleted.
 * 10) Fuck that shit. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Artwork
 * 1) Move " Artwork for Radio Wars was by Mark James and photography by Clare Shilland.[13]" to first sentence.
 * 2) Song writing.
 * 3) The artwork is in contrast to the debut album, where most of the songwriting endeavours were provided by Juanita, it features front and back covers that are grey washed, appropriate to the gloomier, more languishing material demonstrated in that selection. > By contrast the debut album's artwork has front and back covers that are grey-washed, appropriate to the gloomier, more languishing material mostly written by Juanita. Check that the ref supports this description.

Promotion, release and reception shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) After recording Radio Wars, Howling Bells returned to touring in July 2008.
 * 2) They incorporated new songs from the album into their live sets.
 * 3) When was the third leg of the Coldplay tour?
 * 4) Adjust Fopp Records per change to Lead.
 * 5) Wikilink first appearances of Australian Albums Chart and UK Albums Chart in main text.
 * 6) The Album of the Year website uses another model that
 * 7) Leahy should be identified as working for Allmusic. While there direct the url and archiveurl to the Review tab rather than the Preview so that the quote is more easily found.

Track listing shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) All lyrics written by Juanita Stein and Joel Stein, except where shown.
 * MoS: Paradiso EP
 * 1) Remove Note 9, just use the reference [75] at the end of that sentence.

Criterion 2
:
 * (a) ;
 * (b) ; and
 * (c).

General comment
 * The references appear to be formatted correctly and its good to see so many are archived. One quick specific comment, for Cite video or Cite audio: Language is, by default, English and so this parameter is only used for another language. Most of my focus will be checking how well the references verify the content. The numbering below relates to those used at the time indicated. Numbering may change when references are moved, added or deleted.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:44, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Don't use phrase 'Same as publisher' for work. Try
 * 2) Nothing is said on Wikipedia about not using the phrase. This is just something that you personally would not like to see. Honestly, it cuts out redundancy, so these apply here as well:
 * 3) *Ignore all rules
 * 4) *What "Ignore all rules" means Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Ref was written in August 2006, the information here relates to Howling Bells. More useful for previous sentence.
 * 6) Interview was conducted in August 2006 after the release of Howling Bells. The only songs that they would be working on would obviously be for Radio Wars. Information is relevant to this article. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Note band is with Bella Union in July 2007 & still saying positive things about them.
 * 8) Compare content of this page with that at Ref [9] under the heading: Artist Biography. Similar content was posted by Ocelot on here on 26 February 2009: The Ocelot claims to be an independent entertainment magazine. Content also at Liberation Music website (date unknown): their Australian label. Very hard to tell which is the original. The content reads like a press release / promo by the band, its label or its management. Note that with ref [9] Sandy Tan is the author of the interview but not the Artist Biography section. Other than the interview, any information in the article supported by these refs will require independent reliable sources.
 * 9) How is a blog on MySpace reliable?
 * 10) This is how: Self published and questionable sources as sources on themselves Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) See [7] above. The interview by Sandy Tan is usable but the lower portion, Artist Biography appears to be media release by the Australian label, Liberation Music and consequently not reliable. Adjust title: On the Couch With: Howling Bells
 * 12) Had trouble accessing the video, will try again later. Tried again and it worked better.
 * 13) title Howling Bells Sign to Nettwerk; Join Coldplay Spring Tour Note: According to Nettwerk the band joined the label by May 2009, first release by Nettwerk is the single "Cities Burning Down" in June, the album followed on 28 July. Adjust Lead statement to Radio Wars was the first Howling Bells album issued in North America. Also adjust Singles section All the singles were released before the band was signed in North America.
 * 14) Actually, according to Nettwerk the band joined the label by April 2009. The publishing date is displayed at the bottom of the page (m/d/y format). Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) Removing bolding from album title, leave italics.
 * 16) Show me where it says that this is unacceptable. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) Fix work and publisher, try
 * 18) Yeah, I might try that accept for the fact that Alan Lonsdale is the publisher. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) title We Talked to Juanita Stein from Coldplay's Latest Support Act
 * 20) I got a domain error. I'll try again later.
 * On second attempt, I get an advertisement, followed by an unrelated video. Did an artist search at the website here but none titled "Howling Bells part 2". Content at a is verified by ref [19], but with ref [7] being problematic, the content at b is not verified.
 * Third attempt, advert again. Without support from a reliable source much of the Artwork section reads like WP:OR.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:44, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) It works for me, but if it doesn't work for you than how is it any different than any offline source? I guess you'll just have to take my word for it. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) publisher=Trinity Mirror
 * 3) Couldn't access this either. Will try again later. Eventually got this going, found a and b near times indicated. Not sure about c.
 * Ok, for c, all you have to do is look at the name of the ref and it clearly says right there, Backstage at Wirless. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) At a, being optimistic is verified but can't find much for united in spirit. Other points at b and c are verified.
 * 2) Fix publisher and work.
 * 3) Fix publisher and work.
 * 4) These apply here:
 * 5) *Ignore all rules
 * 6) *What "Ignore all rules" means Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Director verified, date of video shoot is not, previous sentence about video never released is not verified.
 * 8) Date of shoot confirmed. Video never released: not verified.
 * 9) Fix publisher and work.
 * 10) These apply here:
 * 11) *Ignore all rules
 * 12) *What "Ignore all rules" means Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) Provide a Note to explain how to navigate to the correct page.
 * 14) If within 30 seconds somebody can't comprehend such a simple task themselves, than they probably shouldn't be reading this article. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) The ref only gives top 50 charting, claim of two weeks in Australian Charts ignores any appearance in 50+. According to ARIA report at Pandora archive further appearances on ARIA Top 100 Albums are seen in issue #996 (No. 69 3rd week), #997 (No. 85 4th week) and fell out in #998. I didn't check to see if it re-entered.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) Good shiz. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) The ref only gives top 75 charting, claim of one week on UK chart ignores appearance in 75+. I haven't checked these.
 * 18) Being such the good guy that you are why don't you tell me where I can find such a listing, hero? One that is free and accessible to use as a reference on Wikipedia. Because you can't, and you know that you can't. Zobbel only provides peak positions, and even if it listed all positions, according to your saintly grandioseness and suckin' that Wikipedia dick, it would be a source of unreliableness. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) Provide a Note to describe how to navigate to the required page.
 * 20) I don't cater to morons. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) Fix pubisher, claim is confirmed.
 * 22) Note: Metacritic describes the album's reception as "generally favourable"
 * 23) Note: Metacritic describes the album's reception as "generally favourable" Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 24) ASCAP has title of the track as "Radio Wars" not "Radio Wars Theme". Change the track title to suit the reference.
 * 25) *Ignore all rules
 * 26) *What "Ignore all rules" means Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 27) Some tracks (including bonus disc) with B. Picchio in the Writer(s) column don't have ref [72] or nb [5].
 * 28) Come again... baking soda? Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 29) Confirms a special edition with 2CDs but does not name the second disc, try a MusicBrainz ref.
 * 30) Funny, how you tell me to find a different ref because it doesn't say the name of the product, when you have the very same problem on your Paul Kelly article. Hypocrite? Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 31) Provide a Note to explain how to navigate to the correct page.
 * 32) I just shit my pants. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) I just shit my pants. Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 3
:
 * (a) ; and
 * (b).


 * 1) Bonus disc, Paradiso EP and the related live concert, should be mentioned in Promotion, release and reception section. Details of its production (if different from main disc) should be given in Personnel section.

shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 4
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 * Generally neutral with a few points addressed above in Criteria 1 and 2.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 5
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 * A week will be allowed to make changes based on my suggestions.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 6
:
 * (a) ; and
 * (b).


 * 1) For the Infobox photo of the cover, update the Summary section of the Non-free media use rationale, the Description should include the name of the record label, cover artist and the photographer.

shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC) 

Seriously, why don't you see if you can get on with the editors at FA since all you do is review for that status. Because, compared to ¾ of all arts good articles my shit's more John Blaze than that! Mattchewbaca (meow) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Second opinion requested
The nominator, Matthchewbaca, is not willing to work with me on improving this article. Consequently I will ask for a second opinion on its GA status.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * For the most part, the concerns look actionable, and since he doesn't want to fix them, I'm going to close this as failed. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 04:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)