Talk:Radio edit

Removed sentence
I removed the following sentence from the article:

An example of a song that is simply shorter than the LP version is Depeche Mode's "Enjoy the Silence".

The reason being, the single version of "Enjoy the Silence" is not significantly shorter than the album version, rather, there is a separate interlude (by the name "Interlude #2" or "Crucified") appended to the end of the track. The interlude is not technically a part of the song, but since the interlude is not labeled on most track listings, it makes it appear that the entirety of the track is one song. John5008 | talk to me 11:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Drop The Pressure
''On rare occasions, however, songs have not been radio edited due to the profanities either being seen as "too weak" to make it worthwhile, or due to them not being audibly clear in the song. The best recent example of this is Mylo's "Drop The Pressure", which contains profanities throughout the track, but was never radio-edited because it is difficult to tell what the profane lyric actually says.''

As well as being unsourced, It doesnt seem to make any sense to me. How can one know that there is constant profanities if it is hard to tell what it says? Regards, FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  20:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

This article is written almost exclusively in regard to the removal of offensive lyrics. What about Radio Edits having lyrics added where there were none before? This happens to almost all dance tracks, and those that are left without usually have them added later in a 're-release' (see Bodyrox - yeah yeahs and countless others) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.172.228.14 (talk) 18:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would also like to add "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor to the list of songs edited for time, noting the original (on her album "Love Tracks") is 8 minutes 23 seconds long and that it has two radio edits: one on the album of the same title as the song at 4 minutes 25 seconds and a further edit at 4 minutes 47 seconds (I guess that last one is what you would call the "single" version) --Marceki111 (talk) 09:07, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

"Misnomer" category
- Can't really see why this belongs in the category Misnomers. Can anyone enlighten me? If not, i'll remove it after a week or so.  tomasz.  19:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

American Pie
I have a compilation album with a 4½-minute version of American Pie by Don McLean - presumably a radio edit, so this probably doesn't belong in the list of long songs without a cut-down version. The full version is normally played on radio, presumably due to popularity and to its narrative structure. IIRC the 3rd, 4th and 5th verses are omitted (could be 4th, 5th, and 6th - I haven't played it for a long time!) Streapadair (talk) 13:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

You are correct; "American Pie" does in fact have a radio edit. It's on Youtube. I'll fix the article. Dave Cornutt (talk) 14:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Editing for content
I would add the song "Payphone" by Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa to the "Editing for content" section because it has two versions: 1) an explicit version where the end of the chorus is "All these little things are full of shit, one more fucking love song, I'll be sick" and two clean versions: 1) one which blanks out the words "shit" and "fucking" as well as the words "fuck" amd "shit" during Wiz Khalifa's rapped verse and 2) the most well-known clean version, with these lyrics replaced to "All these little things are full of it, one more stupid love song, I'll be sick". What do you think? --Fandelasketchup (talk) 11:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Editing for time
I don't know if all those 10 listed very long songs in the "popular demand very long songs" list always remain the same way as they were in their studio recordings. & I don't know if they all have popular demand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.232.114 (talk) 05:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Editing for form
I would move the following paragraph to a new section titled "Editing for form":"On rare occasions, a radio edit might be longer than the original album version. This may occur when the song is edited for form, such as in the cases of 'Creep' by Radiohead, '2 On' by Tinashe, and 'Miserable' by Lit. 'Creep''s radio edit has a 4-second drumstick count-off before the regular first second, '2 On' repeats part of the chorus one more time than it does on the normal version, and Miserable's radio edit adds the chorus between the first and second verses. 'Walk On The Ocean' by Toad The Wet Sprocket lengthens the album version by more than 30 seconds by repeating the chorus several times at the end of the song. Some radio edits lengthen some parts of the song while shortening others. For example, the radio edit of "Thinking Out Loud" by Ed Sheeran has a 6-second introduction before the first verse but later in the song cuts from the end of the second verse to the beginning of the last chorus, omitting the second chorus and the guitar solo. Different radio stations may edit songs differently for length, an example is 'Uptown Funk' by Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars. Some radio stations cut the bridge and outro, some shorten the hooks and others go from the second chorus to the outro." What do you think? --Fandelasketchup (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Radio edit more suitable?
"a radio edit is a modification... to make a song more suitable for airplay" These days I doubt whether a radio edit always actually does make a song more suitable for airplay. This is because I've found lots of radio edits that have managed to make me way more offended and caused me even more discomfort than an "uncensored" version has done. In fact I doubt I would call a lot of "radio edits" "censored" at all. The message often remains and they do not get rid of it, if anything they highlight it, try to hide it to my discomfort, problematically point out its offensive nature and generally make the song seriously offensive and, in fact, unsuitable and inappropriate for playing when I'm around others. I could go into the definition of "suitable" to show my point. I don't think modifications necessarily do make songs more suitable or succeed in doing that. Perhaps therefore the sentence should be changed to something like "a radio edit is a modification *intended* to make something more suitable" alhough, whether or not it actually succeeds in that intention, is a different matter. As regarding the "editing for content" part above, I would say stop claiming these versions to be clean versions! Unless I class the so-called explicit version as a clean version which, below, in some situations I do, I do not think there are two clean versions of "Payphone" at all. The first "clean" version mentioned is, in my view, *not* a clean version at all, since the original message remains, it is clear what the blanks mean, the subtext is there (offensive subtext in many situations for me), it implies the original lyric and merely putting a couple of blanks, which each carry a meaning, does not in my view constitute making anything "clean". The "dirty" message is conveyed and, whilst the offensive *word* is technically not in the soundtrack, the offensive *content* remains. Silence will not do: it speaks louder than words. It adds, for me, an offensive context onto the song. So this so-called clean version is not clean in my view and is not universally accepted to be. It is not in my view clean. (Note that I have put 'in my view' rather than claiming, as an assertion without evidence to prove it to be true, that there are two clean versions.) In my view, there may be only one clean version from the two versions given, which is the second version. The first is a so-called clean version rather than actually a clean version (in my view). I dispute the assertion that it is clean. In any event, even if I should be wrong and version 1 is clean version, which I dispute, then that does not make that version not offensive and therefore it is not suitable for airplay on radio for all people who might hear it - such as myself. In fact, there may be two clean versions - the so-called explicit version may be said to be "clean" in situations of home listening alone in which it is not offensive to me. Anything that I like which does not cause me discomfort may be said to be "clean". It is a clean song. Clean means that it is a "clean copy" of the song: clean copy being defined on dictionaries.com I believe as a copy free of editing notations. So the "clean" ones, that have editing notations, are not clean (in this sense). The so-called explicit version with the sounds of the actual words in the soundtrack may, in some situations, be a clean version whilst the point 2 clean version is also a clean version, but point 1 so-called clean version may not be a clean version - indeed, since it is clear and the partial lyric is precisely described, in that I know what it means and I know the full lyric from it, it may therefore be termed "explicit" rather than clean. It may be clear, in the context of the surrounding lyrics of the song, that the blank space means "fucking" and therefore that blank material is clear (as to what it means) - in other words explicit. And it does not blank the word *out* since it is in my mind and is, indeed, conveyed to me even more strongly. aspaa 23:56 6th February 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I think the following sentence has to be changed:"Radio edits may also be used for commercial single versions, which may be denoted as the 7" version", because the term "7" version" is not always used. Other terms used include, as denoted on a later section, "Radio mix", "Radio Version", "Single Version" or even "Single Mix", the latter being used for the versions of "Bleeding Love" and "Better in Time" included in the Deluxe Edition of Leona Lewis' "Spirit" album, in which the latter song has a different piano arrangement than on the standard version, as well as having the drums enter later in the single mix as opposed to the album version on the standard edition. To be more precise, in the single mix the drums enter during the first pre-chorus ("Going, coming, thought I heard a knock...") while on the album version they enter at the beginning of the first verse ("It's been the longest winter without you...") --Fandelasketchup (talk) 10:27, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Billy Joel "The Entertainer" reference
This is fairly low-stakes, but would it make sense to include the two lines immediately preceding the section quoted, so the full verse of the song is in the article? Just so readers can more easily get the meter of the song. Mainstay17 (talk) 15:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)