Talk:Ragnall ua Ímair

Not besieged by Niall
I have corrected this to what it actually was, a stand-off. AU actually describes the Irish army running away back to their camp when Ragnall arrives, and then Niall taking a second position to prevent their slaughter by Ragnall. So the Irish in this case are in the defensive position and Ragnall is free to leave if he chooses, which he eventually does, after twenty days, and returns to Waterford. And this is all in Munster. Meanwhile, Niall sends word to Leinster to come to attempt to besiege either the force of Ragnall, which he is not strong enough himself to engage, or the second force under Sitric. So either Sitric counter attacks a force moving solely against him somewhere else, or he intercepts the Leinstermen on their way to Munster. In either case there is no real siege. Back in Munster Niall is encamped against Ragnall to prevent him going further but they never actually engage. All of this can be checked in AFM. It seems the occasional writer gets confused. DinDraithou (talk) 22:36, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It should probably be mentioned however that some "foreigners" entered Waterford (Loch dá Caech) in 914 (AU 914.5), and when Ragnall first appears here he "moved against the foreigners of Loch dá Chaech" (AU 917.2). So even if Ragnall and Sitric appear to have acted in unison, there where some other Norse players involved in this. Finn Rindahl (talk) 00:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, and this is where the Cogad, which preserves what should be in the Annals of Inisfallen, comes in. We can be certain that these additional forces, at least from 917, were led by Ottir Iarla. There seem to be different interpretations of how Ragnall came to rule there and it may be that he did not have to try very hard. DinDraithou (talk) 02:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * And I see you concerning the "foreigners", not so foreign by this time. At the same time the AU notice of Ragnall's death is extraordinary and shows us that no matter how xenophobic the Gaels were, they recognized sovereignty without discrimination. Note no title was given to Sitric until after Ragnall died. DinDraithou (talk) 07:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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