Talk:Raid at Cabanatuan/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Dana boomer (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up shortly. Dana boomer (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * POW camp, "Soldiers hid food and killed mice in their underwear". They had mice in their underwear, which they killed? Or they killed mice in camp, then hid them in their underwear?
 * That has got to be my best sentence written to date. I reworded it along with the sentence before it to hopefully make it clearer. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It definitely made me chuckle when I read it... Dana boomer (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * POW camp, "By mid-January, a large group". By mid-January, or in mid-January?
 * Reworded. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Liberation by fire" and "Long trek to freedom" are rather POV for section titles. Perhaps just "Prisoner liberation" and "March" or something of the sort.
 * I had just left these as they were before I started the article, they have now been reworded. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Outcome, "returned to the United States, usually by plane". Perhaps "most by plane" instead?
 * Reworded. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there no other information on the Japanese reaction to the raid? Did they have any idea that raids on this camp and others were being planned? Were the officers not killed in the attack punished? How did the Japanese government/armed forces high command react? Although not a must have, this information would be nice in order to present a full picture of this raid.
 * I tried looking for this as it is definitely something I wanted to include to help balance out the article. Unfortunately all of the sources I have come across do not provide any details on the Japanese reaction. I'm definitely keeping my eye open, but I've already exhausted the majority of the sources I've come across. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * I added one fact tag where I would like to see a reference, plus some hidden text that can be tossed once the reference is added.
 * I'll need to grab some of the sources again at the library to expand on the Filipino relations. For now, I've reworded it to focus on the other raid. If this goes to FAC at some point, I'll definitely focus on expanding that. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * See last comment in prose section.
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * See comments in prose section.
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * File:Mucci.jpg doesn't have a source.
 * Image is a U.S. Army photo, linked to occurrence on another site. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Capt. Fisher.jpg doesn't have a source, and the uploader has a history of copyvios.
 * Image is a U.S. Army photo, modified the license accordingly. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Pajota's Guerrillas.jpg - no source, same uploader
 * Image is available through National Archives, added source to site stating that. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Cabanatuan Prison Hut.jpg - no source, same uploader
 * Couldn't find source, have removed the image for now. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:POWs on Carts.jpg - no source, same uploader
 * Couldn't find source, have removed the image for now. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:POW March.jpg - no source, same uploader
 * Added source. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * File:POWs in Hospital.jpg - no source, same uploader
 * Added source and uploaded larger size. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've also added a new image that I scanned. Unfortunately doesn't look that great, I might try uploading it down the road with a better scanner. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Pass/Fail:

Overall, a very nice article. I have a few questions on prose and referencing, but at this point the images are the biggest issue. If the uploader is correct that all of these are free-use government images, then all that is needed is to find where they exist in government archives and add a link or description (if they are in a book, for example) to the image page. However, at this point there is no proof that they are indeed free use government images, and so they can't be used in a GA. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 23:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time to review this article. I've resolved the majority of the issues listed above. I'm going to have to check out some books from the library again to check the sources for the remaining images and possibly add some new ones. It's probably going to have to wait until Wednesday. I'm assuming they are all either National Archives or U.S. Army images. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Things are looking good. Just drop a note here when you've finished up the issues with images, and I'll take a final look through the article. Dana boomer (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Everything looks good, so I am passing the article to GA status. Very nice work! Dana boomer (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for reviewing and for helping to copyedit the article, I appreciate it. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)