Talk:Rakim/Archive 1

Picture
The picture is too big on this page...squishes the text..makes it look badUrthogie 16:51, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Is it "rah-kim" or "rah-keem"? 24.33.229.62 22:56, 12 September 2005 (UTC) It is pronounced as "rah-kim" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.47.148 (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Rah-kim." He says it in just about every song - "Rakim gets stronger/as I get older" in "I Know You Got Soul," for example. | Keithlaw 02:47, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

is he muslim?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tegro (talk • contribs) 23:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Yes he is —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.47.148 (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

He changed the way that every emcee rhymed on the mic. He brought fluidity and substance to rhyme writing. -S.toure' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.12.116.135 (talk) 08:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

In raw talent he is the most skilled emcee (Move the Crowd) to ever live —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.47.148 (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Where is the seventh seal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.114.125 (talk) 03:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Technique section
Needs to be cleaned up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.173.137 (talk • contribs) 16 March 2007

no way man, "But now I learned to earn 'cause I'm righteous, I feel great so maybe I might just..." is an example. This verse does not end in a complete thought. It ends in a cliff hanger that forces the audience to wait for the next verse to find out what he might just do, which is "...search for a nine to five". The movie-like suspense embedded in the rhyme heightened the already high sense of drama inherent in hip hop rhyming."

This shit is HILARIOUS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.143.188.239 (talk) 23:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Rakim is not a Muslim. That says even he himself Lycris. Listen to his songs properly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.103.203.173 (talk) 11:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Why does someone keep changing the technique section where the old school lyric from the Fat Boys is given? It's a comparison of Rakim's style of lyricism to what lyrics were like before that, this is what the whole section is explaining. Putting another Rakim lyric in there (like a line from I Aint No Joke) dosen't make any sense in the context of what is being said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.247.204 (talk) 05:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty funny to me that no one mentioned the Allah Team interview. So when he speaks of Islam it is twofold. Not to mention Sunni, Shia, Ahmadiyyan, Qurani and all Muslims who have a spook Deity mentality are against this. Yet Sufism is not against it. So you can't really say it is shirk to call yourself Allah and be Muslim. In fact the Allah Team believe and follow that logic. Rakim Interview--HaelBenQodesh (talk) 18:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Popularization of various phrases
Is there any proof that Rakim "popularized" the phrases listed at the end of this article? (ie Dead presidents, etc). The fact that he says he did in a song is no proof, nor is the fact that he put it on an album in 198- and most rappers didnt use the same slang until 199-. It could have been popular on the streets long before. All I'm looking for is some sort of backup for this claim. At present there is none whatsoever, which is troubling in an article with such an obvious slant of trying to establish the biographee's "greatness". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.2.39 (talk) 21:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Rakim definitely didn't coin the phrase "Dead Presidents" as a reference to money. Blues man Willie Dixon had a song of that title from around the 1950s Well I ain't broke but I'm bad bent/Everybody loves them dead presidents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.106.21.232 (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * He definitely didn't invent the phrase dead presidents but I do think he helped make it a little more popular or at least more used, you know what I mean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.24.85 (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you think there should be a part that lists all of his nicknames like on the Ghostface killah page, ie Rakim, The 18th letter, The Soloist, The R, The solar controller, and there is like 10 more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.24.85 (talk) 02:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I suppose anybody who uses a phrase popularizes it... As for "master plan", c'mon, that's certainly been in common usage since before Rakim was born. Delete the section pending a rewrite? with some supporting evidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.106.21.232 (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

he wasn't the first person to say it but he might have been in hip hop. or at least made it popular in hip hop music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siwhat (talk • contribs) 04:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

LEGAL PROBLEMS WITH REGGAETON STAR "R.K.M"
Shouldnt it be included that Rakim won the case over R.K.M (rakim y ken-y) for the rights to the "Rakim" name, its included in the Rakim Y Ken-Y page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosaints4life (talk • contribs) 15:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Damn son, them fools trying to steal the R's name? It'd be worth placing it as a kudo to his name. Beau Martinez (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Every fucken time on limewire i type rakim, i get that french dudes name all over the place!!!! get him out of the world pl0x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.37.123 (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Objectivity
I think a lot of the claims made on this page need to be toned down a little; no doubt he introduced many new techniques into rapping but at times this page sounds like it is written by his PR manager or hype man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.8.71 (talk) 11 August 2007 (UTC)

What parts are you talking about in particular? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.253.12 (talk) 09:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

"Rakim pioneered using internal rhyme multiple times within just a few lines" This line is awesome. Doing the thing the writer describes. Cool. Oh, and the claims are fine, he is held in near universal regard as an innovator. Asking to tone down praise for Rakim is like asking to tone down praise for the Beatles, John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Leonardo DaVinci, or Michelangelo.

Moe, signing out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.8.191 (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Added back the Eric B section
It goes right from "Early Life" to "Solo Work;" it seems appropriate to include at least a few sentences about his partnership with Eric B, as that's arguably his greatest claim to fame and what he is best known for. 128.135.223.197 21:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that it should include the discography of Eric B. & Rakim, that is extremely important especially Paid in Full. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.27.129 (talk) 00:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Seconded - Paid in Full and Follow the Leader are his best known and best selling albums and highly representative of Rakim's style. Someone who's better versed in Wikipedia formatting please add Eric B. and Rakim discography to the discography section. 65.96.162.68 (talk) 02:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

NAS
NAS.. Surely his effect on nas, relationship with nas and nas‘ tribute song to him (U.B.R.) should be mentioned.. perhaps in his legacy.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillon73 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Why? I think its quite obvious he influenced quite a great deal of rappers. He's a pioneer of the genre. Why is it important to mention Nas in particular? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.7.183 (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC)