Talk:Raleigh, Memphis

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Are we sure this is the Most eastern part of the city, and not Cordova?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barcode (talk • contribs) 19:24, 1 February 2006

Raleigh is on the northern side of the I-240 loop, with Frayser to its west. The two communities are split by Warford Street. Cordova is in the burbs all the way out I-40, about 5 exits past Raleigh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.16.235 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 21 August 2006

Cordova was annexed by the city of Memphis, so it would be the easternmost part of the city. Memphis also annexed the Wolfchase Galleria area, which is east of Bartlett. - CKB

P.S. I corrected some grammatical mistakes in the comment above the one I typed. - CKB — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.153.115.152 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 25 July 2011

I had it as being in northcentral Memphis and someone changed it to northeastern. I agree with you that is incorrect, as any map will show. I'll change it back.

One point of disgreement--Raleigh and Frayser are not and never have been separated by Warford/New Allen. The Memphis city limit until 1975 was the Illinois Central Railroad. Everyone to the west of the railroad attended Frayser schools (such as Trezevant), everyone to the east attending Raleigh schools (such as Scenic Hills). If Warford had been the dividing line, kids living in Scenic Hills would not have attended Scenic Hills School! Historydude58 (talk) 08:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree indeed Artofsketches (talk) 04:57, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

neutrality quesiton in Education section
The transfer of control of public schools from one jurisdiction to another is irrelevent without supplying more details (e.g., unusual causes or results). I bring up neutrality here because in this region (Memphis), such transfers of jurisdiction are often politically and racially charged. The predominantly white Shelby County system, serving Memphis suburbs and unicorporated sections of the county, is viewed by many residents (white and black) as a "safer" and more academically rigorous than Memphis' municipal system. The accuracy of that common view is better discussed elsewhere. Typically, when a change in jurisdiction is mentioned in local conversation (spoken or text) without any elaboration, the unspoken context is a "there goes the neighborhood" lament, usually under the assumption that children from more impoverished neighborhoods will be allowed to attend the former "county school." The Education section, as written, similarly lacks that needed elaboration or qualification. My questions to the author are "why bring this up?" or "Why create an 'Education' section only to make this one observation about city vs county?" The observation, if it's indeed intended as a "there goes the neighborhood" lament, is also anachronistic: Raleigh's racial demographic has undergone massive changes in recent decades, with many African Americans taking up residence there. And since it's become the backbone of Memphis' growning Hispanic population, white residents may actually comprise a minority there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridgman (talk • contribs) 01:00, 17 February 2007

Edits re: Brownsville School
I have removed the following text from the intro paragraph. If anyone reverts it, please delete it again.

Brownsville Road Optional School was the first school that was built in the neighborhood. The school was built in 1964. Then it open February 2, 1965. Memphis City Schools was oprearting the school before Shelby County Schools was serving the school.

The opening link has no corresponding page. Brownsville was not the first school in the area, as Coleman was opened years before. There are typos throughout. The last sentence is apparently referring to the merging of the school systems but doesn't make that clear, which is a problem because Brownsville was a county school before being annexed into the city system. Finally, there is a section for Education on the page that mentions Brownsville School.

Coleman was built in 1972 and was also annexed with Raleigh and Brownsville Road was built in 1965 just look it up. Richard Raleigh (talk) 14:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

As per Mary Winslow Chapman's book I Remember Raleigh, Coleman and Spring Hill schools were both founded in the early decades of the 20th century, and their current buildings are clearly visible in the early 60s aerial photos on HistoricAerials dot com. It is true that Brownsville was opened in 1965, but it was originally a Shelby County School. Only after annexation did it become a city school.Historydude58 (talk) 16:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Edits to Economy and Education sections
User:Richard Raleigh is a new editor with evident local knowledge but whose additions tend to contain typos and grammatical errors. I am assuming he knows what he's talking about regarding what schools currently operate in Raleigh; things are complicated by there being a number of charter school operations that have changed the names of some schools, plus at least three public school districts: Memphis City (dissolved and the schools placed under Shelby County), Shelby County, and the newer Achievement School District. I've given a reference to the official list for the last of these: Raleigh-Egypt Middle School and both of the Raleigh charter elementaries are in that district. (There's also at least one recent newspaper reference containing that list.) It is my understanding that charter schools, unless they are specially sponsored (for example by a university), are within the local public school district, so the "charter districts" Richard Raleigh has been listing are the charter organizations or firms, and I see no merit in listing them here since the names of the schools identify the charter group. As mentioned above, I also see no great value in talking about the order in which the schools were established, or listing those that have closed, unless a source can be found talking about that in terms of the history of Raleigh. I was looking for news coverage of when various schools became charter schools; sometimes that makes the papers, and I think that would be good to have to increase the amount of independent sourcing in the article, but I disagree that we should go into the history of Memphis City vs. Shelby County schools at all—unless, again, an independent source can be found discussing that in relation to Raleigh. There are articles on all 3 school districts ripe for sourced improvement, and many charter school organizations don't have articles yet but seem to me like valid topics.

The other thing Richard Raleigh has been adding is a defunct recording company. Unfortunately his source for it is an open wiki, Everybodywiki, and I was unable to find anything else to cite—unfortunately unless a reliable source can be found for it, we can't have a sentence about it, because it clearly wasn't notable enough to be mentioned in an encyclopedia article about Raleigh. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:28, 4 September 2020 (UTC) To be honest Memphis City Schools demolished ten schools in that area in the early 1980s. Also i used to work for Memphis City Schools as an Grounds/Maintence Specialist back in 1983. I discovered spring hill school in 1999.Richard Raleigh (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

As a resident of the Raleigh area, I know of no schools that have been demolished, nor can I find any source for such. Demolishing ten schools would mean demolishing every school in the 38128 zip code. I'm not sure what you mean by saying you "discovered" Spring Hill School in 1999, but I caution all editors to carefully review edits by this user.Historydude58 (talk) 16:40, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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