Talk:Ralph D. Scurfield

[deleted comment] LessHeard vanU (talk) 14:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC) (Oversight volunteer)

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 * Both statements are sourced to articles in the Calgary Herald. Jonathanwallace (talk) 23:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Done Actually, both of you are wrong. It's not "vandalism", because Wikipedia defines vandalism as something done intentionally to make the encyclopedia worse (like adding curse words to the middle of articles, or deleting large chunks of text for "fun"). However, Jonathanwallace is about the underlying idea of keeping this in the article. The Calgary Herald article does properly source the information in this article; however, that information has no business in this article. Nothing in the Herald indicates this was Scurfield's fault; rather, it connects it with policy at the ski resort along with some sort of "protest" about the treatment of another worker. All of this is probably relevant to the Sunshine Village article (although there would have to be some discretion to make sure that this one event was notable enough to include in the company's article), but it's not notable enough to Scurfield's story. The only way we could include this information would be if we had a reliable source that clearly laid blame/responsibility on Scurfield, and even then the inclusion would be questionable. As such, I am removing the information from the article, per WP:BLP and WP:NPOV. I am also going to go check the Village article to see how the issue is being treated there). Qwyrxian (talk) 02:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure against vandalism that has not yet occurred, nor should it be used solely to prevent editing by anonymous and newly registered users. The information stated above is true and should remain on the site. (RevyMan (talk) 16:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC))
 * The semi-protection wasn't pre-emptive, it was made following repeated additions of unsourced information (detail that wasn't in the sources), and a blog/forum-type post. I agree with Qwyrxian's view on this, the appropriate place to cover this is Sunshine Village, not here. January   (talk)  10:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's absolutely relevant. Mr. Scurfield's son was caught skiing out of bounds, the ski patrollers who caught him were subsequently fired. I've replaced the “vandalism”. If you want to avoid having negative statements in your biography, try to act with some integrity in the future. — INTRIGUE B LUE (talk&#124;contribs) 09:49, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * First, I guarantee it's not my biography. Second, as you, yourself say, it's about Scurfield's son, and about the company Sunshine Village.  YOu can't make the indirect comparison; none of the sources specifically cite this as being an issue about Scurfield.  Qwyrxian (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Scurfield was directly involved in the firings. Spin it how you like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.206.133.12 (talk) 04:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)