Talk:Ralph d'Escures

GA Review

 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

Comments:
 * 1) The lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD. Specifically, it must summarize all major points made within the body of the article. Currently, for example, it does not discuss the section on his early life. There is much more than that, however, so a significant expansion of the lead will be required.
 * Done


 * 1) The one-two sentence paragraph under "Archbishop of Canterbury" needs to be either expanded or merged, as it cannot stand alone.
 * Done


 * 1) "He attended the translation of Saint Cuthbert's remains at Durham" (Time in England) Is there a Wikipedia article for this type of "translation?" The average person not fully in the know of the subject is more likely to think of translation as in between two languages, so if there is a Wikipedia article, the concept should be wikilinked. If not, just let me know.
 * Done —Preceding unsigned comment added by Secisek (talk • contribs) 05:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) "In June of 1108 he succeeded Gundulf as Bishop of Rochester, having been nominated by Gundulf as Gundulf's successor before Gundulf's death, and was consecrated on August 9 1108." (Time in England) This sentence could be greatly improved if it were rewritten without mentioned Gundulf's name four times. I realize it's tricky, since the pronoun "his" could be ambiguous, but it should be attempted, to remove at least one or two of the instances of his name.
 * Done, good call.


 * 1) "This step involved him in a quarrel with the Papacy, for Pope Paschal II supported Thurstan, and Ralph visited Rome in 1117, but was unable to obtain an interview with Paschal, who had fled the city in front of an invading imperial army." (Archbishop of Cantebury) This sentence is fairly run-on and should be split into at least two. Also, why is "Papacy" capitalized here when "pope" wasn't earlier on?
 * Done

To allow for these changes to be made, I am putting the article on hold for a period of up to seven days, after which it may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work thus far. Cheers, CP 05:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * What else? -- SECisek 05:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good! You work fast, I was busy updating Archbishops of York succession boxes ... blech! Ealdgyth | Talk 05:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, looks good indeed. In fact, a Good Article. Congratulations, and thank you for your hard work! Cheers, CP 06:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Well done, everyone! -- SECisek 07:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)