Talk:Rambo (franchise)

Rambo V
After the sucess of Rambo IV rumors started to spread about Rambo V. Now just forget about rumors because now its official, Rambo V is set to release in 2009. The plot for Rambo V is either in Africa, The U.S., or an alternate story for Rambo IV in which Rambo's daughter is kipnapped by a hostile cult and he atempts to save her. Rambo V link.

Green Beret
While US Army Special Forces is more official, the term Green Berets seems to strike a more familiar tone with people so I added this term in parenthesis. BTW- the term "Green Beret" is used on the back cover of the VHS box of First Blood. Hthash 20:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Arthur John Rambo
Just a coincidence, but something to be respectful of: There was a soldier, SSgt Arthur John Rambo from Libby, Montana, who died in South Vietnam, 26 November, 1969.

Doesn't there need to be some more on the influence the Rambo character has had in the popular media? The red headband has become one of children's favourite accessories when they play at being soldiers. And the ridiculous amount of carnage in the latter films also came to be synonymous with what Hollywood action movies stood for right then.

I just removed the statement under Trivia about the name "John Rambo" being the "first name on the Vietnam Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery." This would be totally awesome if it were true because of the obvious "First Blood" connection. Unfortunately, the VVM is not located at Arlington National Cemetery, and there is an "Arthur John Rambo" on the wall but he couldn't be the first name because they are listed in order of death, the first being in 1957, and this Rambo fellow passed in 1969. Anyway68.115.110.78 21:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese spelling
I just went ahead and clarified the "japanese" spelling of "ranbou" as opposed to "rambo" althought my understanding is that the pronunciation is very similar? PS the above edit regarding the VVM is from me while I wasn't logged in.Gabenowicki 03:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

If you object to my edits, please do discuss them before you remove them. They're there for a reason. Druworos 14:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid reference
Is the Metal Gear Solid reference really necessary? Nath 05:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Not within the section it's included in. I'm going to move it to "trivia".

On second thought, it already appears to be covered under pop culture references, so I'll remove the edit I made to the trivia section.

Is it even needed? It's such a vague connection to begin with, and Kojima has never mentioned the films as an inspiration. Rhickey1986 01:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Criticism
I changed the word "patriotic" to "jingoistic." I realize there's a risk of becoming overly POV by saying so, but the "patriotism" in these movies seems excessive to the point of being almost a caricature, so I thought "jingoistic" was more appropriate. If you disagree, by all means revert. Septegram 20:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC) um...i have only seen first blood and rambo all the way through and neither of those movies are very patriotic IMO. I could be wrong 209.40.209.76 (talk) 02:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

No mension of the Star?!
Is it just me… or has this article missed the boat completely? The fact that Sylvester Stallone the star of all 3 movies isn’t even mentioned is rather poor. There’s not even see a single reference to him, that’s shocking! If it wasn’t for Sylvester Stallone, Rambo would not be the great character and icon we know today. So I think it’s essential that this article be emended to include at the very least a reference to him, or a link to his section on Wikipedia.

Rambo's Battle Cry
Does anyone have any info on the so called "Rambo Battle Cry", its basically a famous scream like The "WILHELM" Scream, so does anybody have any idea on what that cry is called, I think it was featured in an episode of Robot Chicken called "Federated Resources" where Corey Haim and Corey Feldman reunite to rescue the President's daughters.

Rambo IV
Hi:

According to the IMDB, there's a Rambo IV in the works. A citation will be needed, so I'm not including this in the article, but I recall Stallone joking at the time that Hot Shots Part Deux came out, that if he ever made another Rambo picture, it would begin with a scene at Trautman's funeral.


 * It's already mentioned in the opening paragraph and is called Rambo IV: In the Serpent's Eye. FK0071a 22:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The Plot Summary for Rambo IV is much, much too long. This needs to be changed. 82.169.235.240 (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The lack of objectivity
I must admit that i'm very disappointed and can't believe how much of a subjective input was done on this page. Who says that First Blood, as you claim, "is seen" as the best of them. huh?!? Where that came from. "Is seen" by critics, by public, that's so vague and quite simply ridiculous when in fact we're dealing with a franchise that had the tremendous pop culture impact and resonance, not just one film, each Rambo film was revolutionary to some extent, in fact, Rambo 2 contributed the most to the society. Please, make some reasonable amendments before people like me start questioning the credibility of this whole page. Stay true to the facts, and not to a few opinions. Thank you very much.

Soldat reference wrong
In the computer game Soldat, the "Rambo mode" gametype gives the first player to get a kill  .....(wrong).....    a bow and arrow capable of killing in one hit. .....(usually correct but still wrong).....   Other players become the "Rambo" when they kill the current "Rambo" .....(Another wrongo here)..... Players are only rewarded for fragging the Rambo. .....(Also wrong).....

I don't know why I'm putting this in discussion, maybe because I don't want to write the reference myself.

Firstly, you don't only get points for killing the rambo, that would be stupid. You mainly score points in a rambo match for killing the other people while using the rambo bow. Secondly, There are circumstances where the bow will not kill in one hit. For example, you shoot and hit someone but they are far away from where you shot from, they are wearing bullet proof vest or they have flame god power up (these don't apply in the case of exploding arrows,they kill in one hit, except for flame god). Thirdly, you don't get the bow for killing another person first at the start of the match. The bow will always be in a respawn point somewhere on the map. Nor do you get the bow instantly once you kill the previous rambo(The previous rambo drops the bow allowing anyone to pick it up that time to modifited sping that time, soon)

You should play the game before you start pulling references out of nowhere. 202.150.115.150 11:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Isn’t a Sylvester Stallone interview relevant to this film?
I discussed this issue with the frequent editors at WikiProject_Films; please see the topic entitled “Can I post reviews and interviews as external links?” in their discussion forum. They confirmed that it is appropriate to add an external link to an interview, and that “generally any professional critic review is acceptable”.

This article currently does not contain any links to interviews with Sylvester Stallone. Please clarify your policies. Thanks. ImaGoodPerson 00:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The interview wasn't about Rambo. Chris Cunningham 15:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Afghan rambo
Is this guy worthy of a mention? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.199.133 (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Indian = Native American descent?
I don't know if mine is a frequently asked doubt, but I just assumed Rambo's "Indian" from his "Indian-German" ancestry was referring to India, not to Native Americans. For me it gives more sense to the assertion "that's a hell of a combination" from the second movie.

Reply to above: Its definitely native American Indian, not South Asian Indian. Native American Indians are stereotypically known for their warrior qualities and Germans are known for their towering physique. That's why its a "hell of a combination". I don't know why you would assume it refers to South Asian Indian - they are stereotypically known more for being computer geeks!

Someone who has read the book can give more detail about it? --80.26.84.138 10:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Rambo is part Native American. I think Murdock's comment has to do with the legendary fighting prowess of both nationalities, as well as the general survival and tracking skills he may have learned from his American Indian relatives. CRATYLUS22

John Rambo
John Rambo should have an article on its own, as the character Rambo is notable on its own. 70.55.84.123 (talk) 05:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Split, I agree, the chracter is alomst more well known than the actual films that he is in.  Doktor  Wilhelm   20:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Split, I agree. --P shadoh (talk) 02:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Split, it makes sense. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Split, I agree --Mishobg12 (talk) 21:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

"Valet Parking"
The valet parking comment is derisive irrelevent injection from the poster, having no relation to the actual movie. (re: 1st sentence of first blood paragraph) Likewise further in and the reference to a "car wash". Same poster apparently made the First Blood page as well as the snide comments are continued there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.62.7 (talk) 22:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Trautman, suggests that Rambo will end up at a car wash with a tone of familiarity during the dialogue when he first arrives in Hope. At the end of the film, Rambo laments thte fact that even though he was in charge of million dolar equipment in Vietnam, in America he "can't even hold a job parking cars," presumably because of his PTSD and authority issues. CRATYLUS22

No Plot Spoiler Warning
There may need to be a plot spoiler warning in this article. I just wanted to read a synopsis of the Rambo film, and the article appears to go into great detail about the plot. I do not want to read the article any further since I have not yet seen the film. I need to be assured that there is no plot spoiler in this article. Native94080 (talk) 08:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Native94080


 * Wikipedia guidelines discourage "spoiler" warnings. Per WP:SW :
 * Spoilers on the Internet are sometimes preceded by a spoiler warning. In Wikipedia, however, it is generally expected that the subjects of our articles will be covered in detail. Therefore, Wikipedia carries no spoiler warnings except for the Content disclaimer.
 * Hope that helps. --P shadoh (talk) 01:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

"Johnathon"
The user at the IP address 67.170.207.109 is constantly editing the article to say that Rambo's first name is "Johnathon". There are no sources whatsoever citing that is his first name. Please make sure this edit does not occur again.

76.19.215.204 (talk) 22:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want take your request/suggestion to WP:RFP --P shadoh (talk) 02:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

"The Intruder"
how is The Intruder in the see also section related? OTher than the fact that the character in that film is called Rambu It doesn't seem related at all. It's more like Mad Max 1. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 04:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

References?
I would like to know where the author of the John Rambo article got his information. What references? Were they the books that David Morrell wrote? If so I will accept it as canon. Those of us who write fan fiction like to remain true to the character. Please let me know if this is canon from David Morrell. Thanks. Soquilii (talk) 02:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)soquilii

Backstory of being in military prison?
From the article: "In the afterstory of the timeline between the first and second films, Rambo is convicted at a court-martial and remanded to a military prison where heavy duty labor is the norm. Despite being a convict, the rigid routine and discipline of prison life provides Rambo with some measure of much-needed stability, as it reminds him of his past in the military and its own rigid hierarchy."

Why would Rambo be tried at a court-martial and go to military prison when he was discharged from the military in 1974, 8 years before this movie? They would no longer have any jurisdiction over him, as he was a civilian when the crimes occured. Redjacket3827 (talk) 13:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Just rewatched the beginning of Rambo, First Blood Part II, he is clearly not in a military prison as 1) the guards are shown as civilians and 2) he is not in any types of military attire Redjacket3827 (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Army?
How could Rambo be in the Army if he was a Green Beret? Green Berets are the Marines, not the Army. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.69.168 (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Green beret is the army special forces. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces (76.120.65.12 (talk) 09:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC))

Awards and Badges removed???
It looks like someone removed the list of medals that Rambo had listed. These were in a deleted scene from Rambo III. Should they be restored or since it was a deleted scene (ie not canon) should they remain removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redjacket3827 (talk • contribs) 12:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Origins?
I remember seeing a film some decades ago about a man who lived in the wilds and the police went after him over some matter. Like the first Rambo film, he led them on a dangerous chase through the wilderness, using his survival skills with deadly effect but they finally got him in the end. It was said he just wanted to be left alone. It was based on a real story and I wondered if the first Rambo film had been based on it? No idea of the film's name. (193.250.60.95 (talk) 14:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC))

(Trolling) "Category:Fictional German-Americans" added repeatedly
Swapped with Category:Fictional Italian-Americans --Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog (talk) 11:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

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A re-write
Given that each film in this series has its own article page (rightly so), I think this page - detailing the (fictional) character of John Rambo - should refer more holistically to what is portrayed in both the films and books. This article does briefly mention the novels, but tends to focus on the films. For example, it states that Rambo “is an action film series” - yes, one that is “based on the David Morrell novel” - but this stresses the films over the novels. Of course, the character is in all probability more popularly known from the films, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Rambo is the main character in a series of action films and novels.

The book First Blood was originally published in 1972, a decade before the movie adaptation (hence the “based on”). David Morrell, the author, later wrote the novels Rambo: First Blood Part 2 and Rambo 3 to tie-in with the release of the subsequent films. These books offer more detailed characterisation on John Rambo, as compared to the films, and as such this ‘extra’ information would be useful for the purposes of this article. In so doing, however, it needs to be stated that certain “discrepancies” exist between books and films - but, again, this is insightful. The most crucial discrepancy is that in the novel First Blood, Rambo died - in the film, he lives.

We learn, for example, that in terms of awards Rambo has: the Congressional Medal of Honor, 2 Silver Stars, 4 Bronze Stars, 2 Soldier’s Crosses, 4 Vietnam Crosses of Gallantry, and 5 Purple Hearts (see the second novel, 1985, p. 11). This list differs from that presented in the article - which focuses solely on the films.

The books also tell us, for instance, that: Rambo was in Vietnam in 1968 (see the second novel, page 13) - while the article claims (without citing a reference) that between 1967-69 he was back in the United States. Further, the article suggests (again without reference) that Rambo has a Native American Navajo father and a mother of Italian descent - yet in the second book we are told that Rambo was born “of an Italian father and a Navajo mother” (page 62). And, as a final illustration, the second book specifically states that Rambo had not enlisted but had been drafted into military service (see page 63), (a fact that is also stated in the forth film) - yet this article says (again without any evidence) that he enlisted.

On the basis of the information contained in the novels, which generally allows for more detailed characterisation, as well as highlighting specific discrepancies between films and books, I think this article would benefit from a re-write of sorts. I’m happy to make a start on this, but would like to first ask about what other think … let me know. Simon P Blackburn (talk) 04:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

First Blood poster
Why can't we use the First Blood poster like the other posters in this article? Egon Eagle (talk) 17:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

First Blood plot
Intrestingly however, Rambo does not kill anybody in First Blood except the guy he kills.

I could replace "guy he kills" with "one accidental death" (and correct spelling of Interestingly), but I like it as it is. Kd5npf (talk) 23:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the initial series a rip-off of the movie Ruckus from the year before?
There's a small write-up here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084611/plotsummary

Very interesting start has "Rambo" character ordering a hamburger raw... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.167.205.66 (talk) 03:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The Plot of Rambo V
I think somebody should obviously take out the paragraph where Rambo fights a mutanted baby, Im not tacking it out cause I like it too much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.31.143 (talk) 02:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Will it go ahead with a new actor ?
quote "Harry Knowles reported that "He then told me that the folks behind those posters essentially said that if Sly didn't do it - someone else would. And Sly seems fine with that." unquote

Is this saying that Stallone will still star in it, or it will have a new actor in the role ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.136.206.152 (talk) 04:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was move. Jafeluv (talk) 11:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Rambo → Rambo (film series) — As per WP:NCF. There are pages for Rambo, John Rambo (the character "Rambo"), and Rambo (film). I think as per WP:NCF Rambo should point to the 2008 film, although Rambo: First Blood Part II is commonly referred to as Rambo also. Therefore think best for Rambo to point to Rambo (disambiguation). Rob Sinden (talk) 09:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you proposing two moves? Rambo to Rambo (film series), and Rambo (disambiguation) to Rambo?  If this is the case, I am thinking at the moment to support this.  There are four possible applications for "Rambo" -- the first film, the 2008 film, the film series, and the film character, so I don't think it should go to the film series.  Let me know if this is not what you mean. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 18:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm confused. Why is every film in the Rambo series discussed at length in this article when each of them has an article of its own? In fact, nearly everything discussed in this article has its own article, making this one redundant. Why not just list everything related to the character, the films, the video games, etc. in Rambo (disambiguation) and delete this article completely? LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 18:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a very good point but I think it's best saved for another discussion so that focus of the intent of this proposal doesn't get lost. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 18:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes - exactly what I mean. Sorry if I waffled.  Move Rambo to Rambo (film series), move Rambo (disambiguation) to Rambo.  Rob Sinden (talk) 10:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * (ec)Support. I support moving Rambo to Rambo (film series) per the applicable naming conventions. Next, per WP:DABNAME and since there would no longer be a primary topic for Rambo, Rambo (disambiguation) should be moved to Rambo. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 18:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * So this becomes Rambo (film series) and the disam points to the series, the character and the 2008 film. Fine by me. Darrenhusted (talk) 19:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support Making Rambo a disambiguation page. Also, yes indeed this article is currently a pretty sad sight. It looks like a lot of it, mainly the plots, were just copied and pasted into here. Then again, the article looks to be about the same quality as most film series articles. Gary King  ( talk ) 07:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support moving current Rambo to Rambo (film series) and moving Rambo (disambiguation) to Rambo. -Krasnoludek (talk) 13:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I support moving Rambo to Rambo (film series) and and moving Rambo (disambiguation) to Rambo. But first, these links must be updated to point to Rambo (film series) (or whichever articles were intended).  —David Levy 07:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * First? Shouldn't they be moved after the page moves?  It looks like the intention is for some of these not to point here anyway!  Rob Sinden (talk) 10:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not referring to anything other than Rambo and Rambo (disambiguation) being "moved." I'm saying that the links to Rambo should be updated to point to either Rambo (film series) (which already functions as a redirect) or whatever article was intended before the two moves occur.  Otherwise, numerous links that currently lead to the article suddenly will lead to a disambiguation page, as they did when you redirected Rambo to Rambo (disambiguation).  —David Levy 04:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
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Merge character list to film series
To clean up wikipedia, we should consider redirecting the character list to Rambo (film series) to make one less page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sub-Zero Blue (talk • contribs) 03:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see the need for that - providing the article itself is notable, it is common practice to have a separate pages of characters. To merge it here would just clutter this page.  Rob Sinden (talk) 09:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Merge Sam Trautman to character list
I think that since Rambo is the main character, he should have an article. Sam Trautman, Sarah Miller, and Co-Bao are secondary characters. They should be merged into the character list. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sub-Zero Blue (talk • contribs) 03:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest you discuss that at the relevant pages. Rob Sinden (talk) 10:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Rambo: Last Blood ain't happening anymore!
It should be removed.PeterMan844 (talk) 22:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Article for Rambo V
I think it's time to start an article for Rambo V since production has officially commenced. Thoughts? Armegon (talk) 22:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 10 October 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved to Rambo (franchise) (page mover nac) Flooded  with them hundreds  16:44, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Rambo (media franchise) → Rambo (franchise) – Per Naming conventions (films) this article should be disambiguated with just "franchise". As Rambo (franchise) also already redirects to this page, the "media" addition is just unnecessary. Gonnym (talk) 08:59, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support – unnecessary disambiguation here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:01, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - Agree as per norm.--Politicoindian (talk) 00:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternate move to simply Rambo as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Rambo should be Rambo (disambiguation).ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:06, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternate move per Zxdcvbnm. Would also support the proposed move.  ONR  (talk)  23:56, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternate move per Zxdcvbnm. 89.101.219.18 (talk) 15:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support I find "Rambo (franchise)" to be a better choice for now. D4iNa4 (talk) 18:29, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


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Rambo soundtrack films
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