Talk:Ramsey Orta

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We had an AFD that closed with a consensus to redirect. A single user, admin bit or no admin bit, cannot say they disagree with that closure and unilaterally overrule it. We have WP:DRV for that. Ive restored this as a redirect and ask User:Czar that if they feel this article should have been kept that they utilize our established process for overturning an AFD.  nableezy  - 21:55, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It is perfectly within policy to restart an article a year later with extra sources published since the last AfD. I don't know why you would think otherwise. Take it back to AfD if you insist, but DRV is not the right venue per its criteria especially as nothing has been "overturned". czar  02:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Except that source existed prior to the AFD. The Verge piece was published on 3/13/19 and the AFD was on 6/9/19, and the subjects "notability" regarding the harassment and drug charges was already in the article that was found by consensus not to meet out notability standards. I'll take this to AN if you insist, but yes, this edit reversed this close, and your edit summary said as much.  nableezy  - 04:35, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In fact, The Verge piece was cited in the prior article. Every single source currently in the article was in the article that was redirected by by consensus. This is a classic BLP1E failure, and it should be redirected to the event that this person is notable from.  nableezy  - 04:38, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

, given that the source you claimed is an "extra sources published since the last AfD" was in fact cited in the article at the time of the AFD and that it predates the AFD (obviously) and not postdates it as you claimed, I request again you return this to a redirect or take it to WP:DRV.  nableezy  - 18:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There are multiple sources from 2020, the year after the last AfD, concerning Orta's treatment in prison independent from the Garner case. It is not a "classic BLP1E failure". If you disagree that the multiple added sources are sufficient, AfD is the proper venue, not DRV. czar  21:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)