Talk:Ranelagh

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Ranelagh has been a victim of the Tiger Economy, although not completly destroyed like Dundrum, the majority of small family run businesses have closed in the last four years, Jason's has been closed at least two years. The main street is now lined with coffee shops. Scoil Éanna (St Enda's) in Cullenswood, Ranelagh was founded by Patrick Pearse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Pearse). The school was a centre of the cultural Nationalist Movement, frequented by artists such as Jack B Yeats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Yeats), Beatrice Elvery (Lady Glenavy, RHA, 1881-1970) and Sarah Purser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Purser) (paraphrased from the Ranelagh Arts Festival Guide, 2006). Ranelagh is also home to the Dillon Garden (http://www.dillongarden.com), created over the last 34 years by Helen Dillon, a renowned plantswoman. --Remou 12:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Ranelagh name
This article claims that Ranelagh Gardens in London takes it's name indirectly from Ranelagh in Dublin, however another article here http://www.chaptersofdublin.com/books/Neighbourhood/chapter16.html suggests that it was the other way around. The Irish translation suggests the name comes from the Irish personal name, Raghnall, which in turn comes from the Norse name Ragnvald and could be associated with Norse rule in Dublin. Raghnall MacSomhairle was a Norse/Scots king and this may be where the Ranelagh pub R. MacSorley's gets its name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.47.224.27 (talk) 14:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation
HighKing was looking for a reference re pronunciation. If you google pronounce Ranelagh you will get some sources but it's not the sort of thing that lends itself to a reliable quotable source. Rather than put in some of these very informal links I have suggested changing "locally pronounced" to "sometimes locally pronounced" - which nobody could reasonably quibble with! Hopefully! --Zymurgy (talk) 21:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm .. everything should be referenced (unless it's obvious like "the sky is blue" sort of thing). Putting in "sometimes" doesn't fix that problem.  There must be a local book that has that pronunciation.... --HighKing (talk) 12:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Everything should be referenced, but sometimes it's just not possible! There is a WP policy which says that but I can't recall which one. Anyway you are correct, there are some local books and if I get time I will check them out.  --Zymurgy (talk) 20:30, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's WP:PROVEIT- only material that is "challenged or likely to be challenged" has to be referenced. I would have thought it's unchallengeable that a fair number of locals pronounce Ranelagh in the manner referred to in the article but happy to keep looking for a better source. --Zymurgy (talk) 20:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * TBH, the "fact" tag is the wrong one to use. I'm not challenging or disputing the pronunciation, I was merely hoping to find a reference for it.  It's a well-known local "fact".  --HighKing (talk) 21:42, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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What happened?
In a 1932 ghost story by Michael Arlen, ‘The Loquacious Lady of Landsdowne Passage’ this passage appears:

“And then, maybe, you will jeer at George Tarlyon, forgetting for a moment that he is a head taller than any quick-tempered man should be, and thinking to goad him into revelation of the reason or reasons why he, a noted warrior on many fields from Ranelagh to Vimy Ridge, should be afraid of meeting a woman in Lansdowne Passage.”

The date of the story, and the mention of Vimy Ridge, a WWI battlefield, suggests that whatever happened at Ranelagh, happened post WWI, probably during the Irish Civil War.

But what did happen? It seems to have been well known enough at the time for Arlen to mention it in this story, but there is nothing about it here. More information about this would improve the article. 31.94.17.166 (talk) 21:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)