Talk:Range Rover/Archive 1

Manufacturer
Only the current parent company is Ford, before that it was BMW, British Leyland and Rover. GraemeLeggett 08:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Also since this is an overview article covering the whole marque and not just the current model, then oughtn't all the parent manufacturers be listed.GraemeLeggett 11:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit of 'The First Luxury SUV?'
This paragraph; 'The First Luxury SUV?' needs to be changed as it states the Jeep Wagoneer to be the first SUV, which, as discussed in the Jeep Wagoneer discussion page, was not. The Range Rover may not have truly been the first SUV, but it did however, define the word SUV - offroad ability, with luxury. Mr. Bridger 16:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC) - Now changed --Mr. Bridger 16:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * For a luxury SUV, according to the article it did not even receive an automatic transmission (an obvious luxury amenity) until 1981... and it also didn't have power steering until 1973 - both features that the Wagoneer and Suburban had long before.

Note: Nowhere did the original paragraph ever state that the Wagoneer was the first SUV. It stated that the Wagoneer was the first luxury SUV (four-wheel drive wagon-type vehicle). So far, this has not been refuted.

I suggest reverting the edit that changes the scope of the argument from "luxury SUV" to "off-roader". This makes no sense whatsoever; there were countless off-roaders before the Range Rover and that is not the point of this section. This is stating the obvious, and should not be included in the section called "The First LUXURY SUV"? The issue is whether or not the Range Rover was the first luxury SUV, as suggested by previous revisions of this article (see history). "Off-roader" needs to be changed back to "luxury SUV". -- Wikipedian

Luxury SUV
Even if the article stated the Jeep Wagoneer to be the first luxury SUV (not SUV), it was irrelevant for this article, and is debatable. I am glad to see the paragraph 'The first luxury SUV?' has been added to, however, I don't believe the Range Rover was initally 'quite a utilitarian vehicle', and I haven't seen any evidence to suggest this. --Mr. Bridger 18:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It was relevant because in the Range Rover Classic article, the following line was in the first paragraph (see March revisions of that article): "It is widely considered to be the vehicle that single-handedly created the SUV market, being perhaps the first mass-produced luxury off-road vehicle." I agree, from the beginning the Range Rover was not spartan. --Wikipedian


 * I've removed the claim about "quite a utilitarian vehicle", which is quite patently untrue. Moveover, this contradicts what was written in the previous sentence; if coil springs and disk brakes are the non-utilitarian, or "advanced" suspension/braking in question, then this was not a later modification, but rather one that was part of the Range Rover from the very beginning. Collard 22:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Some questions tha tmight throw light on the issue. When does the term SUV first come into use? Does the Range Rover predate the term? When it came out what did Rover describe it as? GraemeLeggett 09:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Land Rover Range Rover?
I've never heard it referred to as a "Land Rover Range Rover", it sounds ridiculous. Its always called a Range Rover". Is this what the car is actually called by the company? JW 13:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Land Rover called it the Range Rover, so technically it is called 'Land Rover Range Rover', just like any other branded vehicle. People seem to get confused by the fact that on the front of the bonnet it has 'Range Rover' printed, rather than 'Land Rover' like other Land Rover vehicles. This does not mean, however, that it is a separate brand. --Mr. Bridger 19:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC) - In most markets, the brand is specified as Landrover, while the model is a Range Rover, thus "Landrover Range Rover". The vehicle name is commonly reduced to the more simple "Range Rover.

This is in line with many other marques with well-known popular models... eg: Ford Mustang aka "Mustang",   Dodge Charger aka "Charger", Toyota Landcruiser aka "Landcruiser", Holden Monaro aka "Monaro", etc. Most Range Rovers carry a small oval Landrover badge somewhere....  usually on the lower tailgate. --DarkGaucho 01:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)