Talk:Ranks and insignia of NATO armies enlisted

Who is who
--Юе Артеміс (talk) 14:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Iceland army
Accually Iceland does have an army, it'c called the IDF comprised of natinal guard units from the USA so their ranks would be the same as the USA's from 0-5 and down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.223.170.101 (talk • contribs)


 * Yes, they are American troops. Not Icelands :) -- Cool CatTalk 18:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Warrant Officers
The Warrant Officer Ranks for the Greek, Italian, Romanian and Polish Armies which are included on the 'Ranks and insignia of NATO armies officers' page are, in fact, enlisted ranks and should be included here. The only Warrant Officers with NATO rank codes WO1 -WO5 are those in the US Armed Forces --LONDON 12:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Since 2005, in the Slovak Armed Forces, the rank of Stabny Nadrotmajster (translated as Staff Warrant Officer or Command Sergeant Major) has had the NATO code OR9. Podpraporcik, Praporcik and Nadpraporcik are now 'Chief Warrant Officers' equivalent to Warrant Officers in the US Army --81.145.242.55 05:38, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Italian Ranks
--- Correct Italian Army Ranks and NATO Codes ---

The current Italian Army Ranks are:

OR-9 Primo Maresciallo Luogotenente, OR-9 Primo Maresciallo, OR-9 Maresciallo Capo, OR-8 Maresciallo Ordinario, OR-8 Maresciallo, OR-7 Sergente maggiore Capo, OR-6 Sergente Maggiore, OR-5 Sergente, OR-4 Caporal Maggiore Capo Scelto, OR-4 Caporal Maggiore Scelto, OR-4 Caporal Maggiore Capo, OR-4 1° Caporal Maggiore, OR-3 Caporal Maggiore, OR-2 Caporale, OR-1 Soldato--195.93.21.34 --172.200.196.42 16:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Rank of "caporale scelto" in Italian Army was abolited with the end of conscription --62.94.143.37 08:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hungarian Insignia
The shoulder-pieces you display here are actually mixing duty-uniform forms and parade-uniform forms. Most displayed are parade versions, but not all, and not consistent. This also applies for the officer ranks on the Ranks and insignia of NATO armies officers page. See also Hungarian Ministry of Defense, Ranks. Someone should upload the correct pics (the duty versions), and correct that. Szabi (talk) 20:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Missing Country
Austria is also a NATO member, seems to be missing in the list (unless I'm blind and my browser search is defective) --77.191.102.184 (talk) 12:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * NATO doesn't think Austria is a member. http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm
 * Hans Engstrom (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Neither does Austria, according to footnote #2 of this, although NATO specifications are often referenced outside that alliance. Dl2000 (talk) 21:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Poland ranks should befixed
Template talk:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/OR/Poland It should be corrected as is on page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_rank_insignia, so or9 - starszy chorąży sztabowy or8 - starszy chorąży, chorąży, młodszy chorąży or7 - starszy sierżant or6 - sierżant or5 - plutonowy or4 - starszy kapral or3 - kapral or2 - starszy szeregowy or1 - szeregowy I couldn't prepare such table for this ranks :/ piowor (talk) 00:00, 30 May2009

Poland ranks fixed
Just did some updates to the Poland row of the table. Seemed the major complication was that Poland has three ranks under OR-8, but the general table only allowed for two. The solution was to create a table within a table, to jam 3 into 2. Not the best solution, but would otherwise require a fair bit of time to make a massive overhaul of all table rows. Dl2000 (talk) 00:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Turkish Forces - OR-3
In the table, it says there is "No Equivalent" for OR-3. It should have been "Er" which is the lowest rank in Turkish Army and has no insignia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.234.172.226 (talk) 18:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Reference:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.234.172.226 (talk) 18:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

British Military Ranks
There's a great deal of problems with the British ranks -
 * British Enlisted ranks are never worn as shoulder-marks. Grades OR-3 to -7 are worn just above the elbow, while the Warrant Officers wear their insignia on the forearm.
 * They are not embroidered directly into the uniform material.
 * The uniform is khaki, not olive drab.
 * The two insignia's for Warrant Officer Class II are the wrong way round in order of seniority.
 * The red ring around the Warrant Officer Class I insignia is only worn by infantry soldiers. Most holding this rank would not have one.
 * The Rank of Conductor is simply an appointment given to those holding the rank of WOI, so shouldn't really be included as it is only used in one corps. That said, the example shown has obviously been shrunk to fit (wrongly) the epaulette, the badge is at least three times the width of that shown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.134.86 (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I did always wonder why articles like this regularly show "Conductor" but not other WOI appointments, like Master Gunner or RASM. It needs to be repeated that OR's do not wear their ranks on the shoulder straps of No 2 Dress/FAD uniforms: someone has clearly seen ranks being worn on the chest epaulettes of CS95 dress and got confused.  Yorkshire Phoenix [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland|22px]] [[Image:Flag of Yorkshire (Flag Institute).svg|God's own county|22px]] 13:17, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Rank table broken
The rank table is broken after Romania. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.105.64 (talk) 23:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)