Talk:Ranulf le Meschin, 3rd Earl of Chester

Wife's birthdate
I see Lucy's date of birth is given here as c. 1079. I've never heard it placed so late. I know that there had recently been a shift from the traditional pre-Conquest date, perhaps c. 1060, to c. 1070: but it has generally been assumed that Ranulf's wife was the Lucy who had previously been married to Ivo Taillebois. A 1079 birthdate would make her much too young for that, so we'd need two Lucies.89.240.57.104 (talk) 11:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Reference to William Malet
It is unclear which of the three William Malets is referred to in this article. Could someone familiar with the subject please review this and correct the link to avoid the disambiguity? Chromaticity 01:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the one who died in 1071. Though I don't know why there's the "either/or" approach: there's no reason not to believe that Turold married William's daughter and Lucy was their child.89.240.57.104 (talk) 11:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

"First Earl"
At first glance, the title of this article, "Ranulph le Meschin, 1st Earl of Chester", conflicts with another article, "Hugh d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester". This is explained at "Earl of Chester" by the fact that there were several creations of the Earldom, and so Ranulph le Meschin was the first Earl of the Second Creation and Hugh d'Avranches the first Earl of the First Creation. But, to an ignoramus like me, it is confusing. It would help greatly if an expert on this area could consider how this could be clarified - for instance, do we need anything more than the person's name in the article title, and could there be better linking and more explanation in the article itself. Obviously these questions apply to other similar articles, not just this one. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like this has been fixed, both here and on the Earl of Chester page; Ranulf is now the third earl of the second creation...Inflation, hey? Swanny18 (talk) 17:33, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Succession
I've changed the succession box here to match the others in the Earls of Chester sequence; I trust that's OK with everyone. Swanny18 (talk) 17:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * the others should use the "new" format that the succession boxes use, just like this article did (and now does). The old "start box" "succession box" is outdated and depreciated. I apologize for the confusion with the edits! Ealdgyth - Talk 17:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah! Seems I can't do right for doing wrong! Though (to be pedantic) doesn't this title pre-date the Peerage of England? I thought that only started in the 14th or 15th century. Swanny18 (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * That I have no idea on and I leave that to the primary author, Deacon, to answer. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC)