Talk:Rape during the Vietnam War

United States Marines
"sixteen by United States Marines resulted in court-martial convictions"

I wasn't aware that Marines could be punished for raping civilians. The article on Sexual assault in the United States military focuses of rapes of active military personnel by their fellow soldiers and officers. Should the military's history of sexual violence be covered as background information? Dimadick (talk) 11:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Source please
@Thelordofsword: Do you have a reliable source for your recent addition? -- M h hossein   talk 06:24, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Rape by the Viet Cong, North Vietnamese, etc
This article concentrates only on rape carried out by US and South Korean personnel. Is there any evidence for it being used as a tactic by the North Vietnamese? I suspect it wasn't as prevalent, but I find it hard to believe that the soldiers on the other side never indulged in rape - if so, they'd probably be the only large army in history never to have done so. OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 16:20, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree, it would be incredibly naïve to think rapes weren't perpetrated by members of all parties to the conflict, just like every other sizable conflict or war throughout human history. With regard to NVA and VC military personnel, however, there just isn't much available in the open source content to built content from. One would need to conduct dedicated research to develop it, and I doubt the national government would have much interest in encouraging that. Nonetheless, there is some information in this article if you look at the third paragraph in the "In Media" section, you'll find Le Ly Hayslip wrote about her experience being raped by VC soldiers in her memoir When Heaven and Earth Changed Places. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 17:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Bahnsen memoir
@Mhhossein, I saw the edit about the Bahnsen memoir with the edit summary about it providing "context for the astute reader," but I was unable to follow the logic. Can you articulate the context and how that fits into the media section? Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 22:19, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the TP discussion, I was actually suggesting that the sexual affairs of the US troops can provide a context for understanding the atmosphere at the time. To be meticulous, the memoir is not on rape issues but still portrays some sort of sexual freedom for the U.S. soldiers in Vietnam. -- M h hossein   talk 06:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I took a break from Wikipedia for couple days and while away, I gave this some thought, but I think consensual sexual freedoms are really outside the scope of rape in this article and the extreme violence of it. The way this has been included at the tail end as an off-hand experiential reference sticks out when all the other books and movie content is about rape. As a side note, did you know that after she died, Bahnsen and Thach Thi Hung's son ended up moving to the United States and reuniting with Bahnsen there? Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. I have no objection against removing the portion regarding the Bahnsen memoir, though I thought it could enrich the section in the way I explained. Also thanks for sharing the note regarding Bahnsen and Hung's son reunion, it was interesting. -- M h hossein   talk 12:24, 3 November 2022 (UTC)