Talk:Raptor: Call of the Shadows

Mountain King Studios
Did really Mountain King Studios develop this game? I see different answers when i google for it. 129.177.138.102


 * I was a little surprised to read that Raptor wasn't a 100% Apogee game (developed and published by), so I searched for Mountain King Studios and found their webpage, and their about page says that they developed it. Since there was nothing to contradict this on Apogee's Raptor page I figured it was true. I noted that initialy Apogee was listed as the developer and MKS as the publisher, this seemed wrong to me since this would be the only game (that I know of) that Apogee developed but not published. So if you have any further info to add, what I wrote was by no means the last word. Qutezuce 20:17, August 22, 2005 (UTC)


 * "this would be the only game (that I know of) that Apogee developed but not published." Google for ScubaVenture, 81.70.123.72 14:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Mountain King Studios was originally Cygnus Studios. After changing their name, they ported the game's main executable to Windows and removed the Backspace cheat. The save files and game data files were unchanged, so the player can move saved games to the Windows version. This allows a workaround to the removal of the Backspace cheat. Create a pilot in the DOS version, start the game, hit Backspace then abort the mission and save. Copy the saved game to the folder where the Windows version is and load it. you now have several Death Ray weapons. Sell all but one and pig out on weaponry you couldn't otherwise purchase so soon. The super hard mode with the indestructable monkies is in both DOS and Windows versions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.136.145.241 (talk) 08:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Plasmaray Vs. Deathray.
Which is the correct name for this weapon? Are there different versions of Raptor or something (such as American and British)? If there are different versions, in my version, this weapon is called the "Plasmaray", but here it's called the "Deathray". Is there a difference? Acalamari 23:04, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Backspace cheat
Why shouldn't the backspace key cheat be mentioned in this article? The cheat was specifically mentioned in the user's manual of the Apogee/Cygnus release. The hardcore icon the sandman 02:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The backspace cheat is official information, and I'm sure it's correct. That's not the problem. According to the Wikipedia Guidelines, scope of gaming articles and WP:NOT, some specific game material simplfy doesn't belong in Wikipedia. In general (see the links for more info), the rule is that if some information is only useful for someone playing the game, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. In this case, the cheat and the information on what it does is only useful for someone playing the game, so according to Wikipedia guidelines, it doesn't belong here. Maybe a general comment on the game containing cheats for registered users is appropiate for wikipedia; but the kind of detail on the backspace cheat is not. There are other wikis where this kind of information is appropiate, GamerWiki I think, GameFAQs.com, etc. Sega381 02:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah okay, I read the guidelines on it, I got it now, Thanks. The hardcore icon the sandman 03:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

For seekers of easter eggs, I started the game today and found that the Apogee theme was replaced by the designers' slightly drunken chanted rendition. This is Jim M.'s birthday. --Kizor 01:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Isn't saying "Nonetheless, Raptor is still considered far more polished and realistic-looking. At its release, Raptor had the best graphics of any scrolling shooter to date, and despite over a decade since its release, the graphics are still considered good quality." and referring to a highly subjective review quite non-NPOV? I'm removing that statement. 90.231.50.62 (talk) 16:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I made a number of changes to the Wikipedia page regarding the gameplay details; I think that section was poorly written in general, with some things being vague or even untrue. I did not add any information on the backspace cheat, but to be honest I think that such information would not be out of scope of the Wikipedia article. That such a game-breaking and easy cheat exists IS of concern to those who aren't playing the game, but are considering whether or not they want to play or buy the game. Some people might like that while others might hate it. I did add a brief section on how to fire all the selectable weapons simultaneously, which isn't nearly as detailed as it needs to be to teach someone how to do it right, but it does essentially tell what should be done, and players can experiment for themselves how to get it to work optimally. However, I would admit that such information might indeed fall into the out-of-scope area, so if someone wants to remove that information (which can seem confusing), I would not be opposed. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one in the world who did that. It's pretty valuable information though, I should probably write an FAQ for it but Raptor is so old now that it's probably not worth the bother. WikiPorc (talk) 04:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

All the Easter eggs
This FAQ tells all the Easter eggs in the game. http://www.rinkworks.com/apogee/s/6.3.2.shtml Bizzybody (talk) 07:23, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Worth mentioning Raptor's clear inspiration?
Raptor clearly was inspired if not totally ripped off of Xevious. I think it is worth mentioning this. The games are almost identical, down to the different ships and enemies. Could anyone help find sources for this? Nabeel_co (talk) 07:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)