Talk:Rasulid dynasty

Rasulid Ghassanid claims
The Zaidi imamas referred to the Rasulids as Ghuzz a general term referring to Anatolian Muslims at that time (Turkic/Kurdish), but the Rasulids claimed a Ghassanid origin. The choice of the Ghassanid lineage (Kahlani Qahtani lineage) claim is more than likely to galvanize the remnants of disposed Kahlani dynasties (Hamdani Khlani) along with majority of Yemenis (Qahtani) against their rivals. #1 Zaydi imams (Hashemite Adnani) & Ayyubid military (Kurds in Dhamar, later converted to Zaydi sect). Tiwahi (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You'll need academic sources for this that say "more likely" or words to that affect. We can't use our own opinions, knowledge or reasoning, see WP:NOR. Doug Weller  talk 18:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Al Ghuzz is not Kurdish
Al Ghuzz exclusively refers to Turks regardless of religion. Kurds were simply identified as Kurds Hanssofty (talk) 15:37, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Daniel Mahoney The Political Agency of Kurds as an Ethnic Group in Late Medieval South Arabia
With all due respect, Mahoney is a newly minted PhD (2014) and his article has had no citations that I can see. It fails WP:RS. If what this source is being used for is an accepted idea in academia, it should be no problem finding a reliable source. Doug Weller talk 18:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Mahoney work is just translations of Zaydi known references (few & well known), there is nothing really to add besides translations or original Arabic references that Mahoney already mentioned. So what we should do? Tiwahi (talk) 19:02, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I removed it and added a citation needed tag. Doug Weller  talk 12:55, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

sharapsalam
stop to claim that they were arabs when it has two sides dont make it more clear then it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flowerpowerone (talk • contribs) 14:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , here is a source, It is, therefore, practically certain that the Rasulids were Ghassanids.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:02, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , another source says thought they were Turkoman, but they were not, and they remained aware of their Ghassanid origin. Later they moved southward to Iraq. Could you now self-revert?--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

okey but weird that some´scholar claim turkic originFlowerpowerone (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC) lead of the article says sunni muslim dynasty and not arab dynastyFlowerpowerone (talk) 15:22, 21 February 2020 (UTC) bosworth dismiss that why are the ones you wrote so important when there is the opposite tooFlowerpowerone (talk) 15:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The sources say that Imam of Yemen used this to claim that the Rasulids are outsiders.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:37, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

okey you can change Flowerpowerone (talk) 15:53, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, I realised that the category should not be used here per WP:DIFFUSE.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:57, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

okay feel freeFlowerpowerone (talk) 15:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


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