Talk:Rat Rock (Central Park)

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Route diagrams? would be handy if anyone has the skills to do so to diagram the different routes on the three faces and offer those here. this article would then become quite a resource for visitors to the rock who are up for some bouldering. Thanks. Also, this article would be greatly improved if someone would take a picture of the rock and submit it, especially with some people climbing it. I'll check flickr to see if anyone would release a photo. - Owlmonkey (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Good job on saving this article from deletion. Christopher Lee on Flickr was gracious to donate a photo of the rock to the public domain so we could add that, and a couple other users with photos on flickr have expressed interest in releasing a couple more already. Quite wonderful and generous. - Owlmonkey (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, added all the photos that have been offered so far. I'm probably at the limit with those, or else this inadvertently starts to look like a gallery article which it's not. Much thanks to Josh for contributing some really great shots! - Owlmonkey (talk) 22:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Formation type?
Photos of Rat rock are alternately used as an example of Hartland Schist and Manhattan Schist on differing wiki pages. (see Manhattan Schist and Central Park Geology ) USGS is vague on the differentiation of the two schist formation types found in New York, both of which have outcroppings in Central Park. This article merely lists the rock as being comprised of Schist without reference to which of the two regional types (or a mix?) this particular outcropping is comprised of. Does anyone know the answer so this information can be rolled forward into other articles featuring this particular geologic formation? Nytasi (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

North of Heckscher Ballfields?
The article says "north of the Heckscher Ballfields on the lines of 62nd Street and 7th Avenue", but the intersection of those streets puts the rock south of Heckscher Ballfields. Confirmed with Google Maps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.225.140 (talk) 07:43, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Corrected; thanks. I've been on top of Rat Rock perhaps a hundred times (it's near my home) and didn't notice this.  Jim.henderson (talk) 11:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Rename to Umpire Rock?
Umpire Rock is the official and seemingly more widely used name:

http://www.centralparknyc.org/things-to-see-and-do/attractions/umpire-rock.html

https://www.centralpark.com/locations/umpire-rock/

https://www.nycgovparks.org/about/history/geology

"For glacial grooves and striations there are many rock outcrops in Central Park, but see especially Umpire Rock, near 63rd Street and Central Park West."

It's the name that appears on maps:

http://berensondesign.com/cpmap.html

mappery dot com: map-of/Central-Park-Map [site blacklisted for security breaches--but a good map!]

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/geology/leveson/core/graphics/nyc_mins2/cp_fieldtrip.html

Nareek (talk) 12:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose The bouldering and climbing community seems to refer to it more often as Rat Rock. For example, see the NYT sources or items such as this by Ashima Shiraishi, whose article links here.  The alternate name of Umpire Rock is provided as an alternate and there's a redirect.  No further actions seems needed. Andrew D. (talk) 15:13, 9 March 2019 (UTC)