Talk:Rated-RKO/Archive 1

Name change
I recommend just changing the name of the page to Orton and Edge or Randy Orton and Edge. Though I do agree, the group doesn't have much real signifigance yet. KE
 * I'd rather have it be "Rated-R.K.O." myself...
 * I second the Rated RKO page. Dustinwayne
 * I don't really think they should have an article until:

PS:I put the article for deletion as these guys arnt really notable yet.
 * a)They adopt a tag team finisher
 * b)They are offinially annouced as Rated RKO by the ring announcer

You forget that WWE.com oficially recognized them as a stable.

Keep - The Survivor Series page on WWE.com officialy labels the team as Rated RKO, therefore, the team name is official. Also, they have won the World Tag Team Championship so they HAVE done something notable. Other than Poetry in Motion, did the Hardy Boyz have a "Tag Team Finisher"? Keep this, because people have accepted this.John cena123 03:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes the Hardy's did. It was called the Event Omega.

They are the current World Tag Team Champions and as mentioned above it is official on the Survivor Series page that they are called Rated RKO. Also 'Edge & Randy Orton' redirects to the Rated-RKO page anyway.


 * Hey do you guys think you can sign your posts? John cena123 20:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) I agree with you cena,rated rko are a proper stable,and the combonation of a spear and rko are a type of finisher

anyone notice that both Orton and Edges combined theme semmed to sound a bit different? maybe we should note it.

Lita
Should Lita even be on here? Rated RKO is more a stable with an active woman wrestler as a valet than it is a stable. Edge & Orton do plenty without her.«»bd(talk stalk) 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Lita should be on here, because she is their valet. She is apart of the stable. BTW, should Lita's Moonsault and Edge's Edgecution be added to the finishers? When Lita retires, I'm guessing we will either briefly mention that she was pnce their valet or removed everything about her altogether.Levodevo 05:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No. There is a big difference between a tag team with a manager (who just happens to wrestle), and a stable. --- Silent RAGE!  04:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay I got a couple of problems on this article with Lita. At Cyber Sunday she won the Woman's Championship by her self with out any help from either Edge or Orton. So that belt shouldn't even be added. You have mentioned this in one of the paragraphs and entered the belt as part of Rated-RKO!. This is clearly wrong. I am removing all that stuff for this reason. Govvy 01:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * At SummerSlam 2004 Randy Orton became the youngest world champion in WWE history by defeating Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Title by himself without any help from Triple H, Ric Flair, or Batista. He even celebrated by himself the very next night! Yet you don't see anyone saying he wasn't in Evolution when he won the title, or that it shouldn't be noted as part of Evolution! And that tournament where she won the Women's Title in the first place. Sure, it was pre-Rated-RKO, but didn't Edge help her out in a match in that tournament? At least as far as Edge is concerned, the union was more significant than "she's his valet who happens to wrestle". 172.150.233.20 06:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Again there is difference, Rated-RKO is the tag team of Edge and Orton. Lita was the valet of only Edge, now retired. I haven't looked at Evolution but that's an alliance which is different to a tag-team. There is still the official problem here, Lita was never considered part of Rated-RKO by the WWE. Putting down the Woman's championship down are an Rated-RKO win is wrong, because that belt in in the wrong category. There for, I am still correct. Govvy 13:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

WWE Triple Crown
Randy Orton is not a WWE triple crown champion edge is —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supermike (talk • contribs)

Yes, Randy is in fact a Triple Crown Champion because he won a world championship (the World Heavyweight Championship), a secondary championship (Intercontinental Championship) and the World Tag Team Championship.

So did you just completely forget about Orton's 8 month plus reign as IC champion? 131.230.184.181 23:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe that this conversation is over seeing as the thing in question has been established. --  T H  L CCD 23:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Randy Orton is most definitely a triple crown champion. ohhh most definitely. Lonelyboy 00:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course Orton is, Triple Crown = World/WWE Title, IC/US Title and World/WWE Tag Titles. Both men fill the quallifications. (Edge holds all accept the World Title by the way)

Actually, the US title isn't criteria for being a triple crown champion. I know it's SmackDown's second tier championship, but WWE doesn't recognize people with a World/WWE, US, and tag championship as a triple crown champion. Orton became the 17th triple crown champion when he won the World Tag Team championship with Edge. Oh, and by now, Edge has won the World Title, but you probably already know that, that was a while back. I don't know why I added that, but oh well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 (talk) 00:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Better picture
A better picture is required, with both of them sharing an equal amount of the frame.

Either that or one with Edge in front.--74.114.105.193 02:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Page Move
I moved this page from Rated RKO to Rated-RKO because the team is listed as such all over wwe.com. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 04:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought, but the screen graphics don't use a hyphen. Tim Long 23:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

That bothers me; however, since I've already moved the page and fixed all of the redirects, let’s leave it here for the time being. If the website changes, I'll put everything back. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 00:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Lawler also mistakenly refers to them as Team Rated RKO. I would tend to go with the screen graphics over the website. We can wait, though. Tim Long 01:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Obviously the different parts of the WWE don't talk to each other much. Seeing as wwe.com is what we cite more than anything else, I would rather go with them website. Like I said, if the website changes I'll put everything back. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 02:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Umm, in all the page moving, did anybody happen to catch where the AfD discussion ended up? I need to reference it, and it seems to have been lost in the shuffle. -- RoninBK E TC 20:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's here.«»bd(talk stalk) 20:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's a fairly recent example of the site not using a hyphen in addition to the on-screen graphics.

f***
Why is this up for deletion?--989 RVD 00:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

--  T H  L  R  01:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I was out of line. If the person who nominated this page comes along, I apologize. I disagree with your nomination, but I shouldn't have said that. I removed it myself. --  T H  L  R  04:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Some idiot did it to justify deleting Christian and Tyson Tomko when Rated-RKO was brought up as a counter-point to that. 172.150.233.20 06:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I see. I've made a point of mentioning that Rated-RKO will be kept in that discussion in order to make that attempt pointless. Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Cheers, --  T H  L  R  07:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it's thought Rated-RKO hasn't been around long enough to have its own page? Just a guess here. Anakinjmt 19:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but articles are usually not put up on AFD less then a month after a clear keep conseusus unless there is evidence of some type of sock or meat puppetry and in those cases there is usually a DRV to challenge the original result. There is no evidence of anything like thaty anything like that has happened here. --70.48.174.80 20:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

That was the idea; however, countless wrestling afds in the past have shown that the overall consensus is that holding a title is equal to notability, with the exception of some, I forget the word for it, but it was what Edge kept saying he wouldn't be in his first WWE Title reign. --  T H  L  R  20:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, he said he wouldn't be a transitional champion, but I doubt that's what you mean. Looking at the size of the article so far, it's a fairly decent length. Sure, you could put this info in Orton's and Edge's pages, but you'd be putting basically the same stuff in both pages. I think it's better this way, but it's not like the Hardys page, so we'll see how this plays out. Anakinjmt 00:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Transitional champion is what I meant. Holding a title is equal to notability with the exception of some transitional champions. Roddy Piper and Ric Flair's tag title reign was no doubt transitional, so the team lacks the notability of those who have had full title reigns. --  T H  L  R  00:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but realize that you'd have to do this for several other teams that have won the World Tag Team Championship or the WWE Tag Team Championship. Examples that come to mind are Edge and Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero and Tajiri, Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle, Paul London and Brian Kendrick, etc. I realize those are all teams that won the WWE Tag Team Championships, and not the World Tag Team, but I think you get the idea. You could argue some of those were tranisitional, but you can't say that about London and Kendrick, and last time I checked there isn't a seperate page for the team of London and Kendrick. I'm not arguing for or against deletion at the moment, just pointing out some facts. Anakinjmt 02:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Paul London and Brian Kendrick, --  T H  L  R  02:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, good call. Still leaves some of the other teams in the list I mentioned. And, there isn't one for Charlie Haas and Rico, Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero, or if you prefer an example for the World Tag Team title, Rob Van Dam and Booker T. I doubt you could call them transitional champions. Anakinjmt 03:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I haven't been a wrestling fan long enough to write an article about them; I've only heard of them. I'm more of an anti-vandal guy then an article writer. I think that you should bring this up at the WP:PW talk page. Cheers, --  T H  L  R  04:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I've already put in my two cents at the discussion page for deletion for this article, but maybe I will too. BTW, just curious, I've noticed you end your posts with "Cheers", and I'm just curious as to why. Anakinjmt 04:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's just a habit I've gotten into. When I first joined I talked to a lot of editors that do this, so I copied them. Now it is just a habit. Cheers, --  T H  L  R  04:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, the article was kept, Shocking. --  T H  L  05:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Rated-RKO vs Team Rated-RKO
An anon user is claiming that WWE.com is now calling the team "Team Rated-RKO" and no longer just "Rated-RKO". I checked wwe.com and found one instance of this (the latest RAW report), but don't think that justifies changing the article yet, and especially not moving the page.

Can we get some more opinions on this before it becomes a full blown edit war over nothing? «»bd(talk stalk) 23:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I say keep it how it is. One reference doesn't make the team go by a different name. On television, they are still referred to as 'Rated RKO' so I say we keep it that way. Levodevo 01:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, let's leave it until there are more WWE.com references to them being called Team Rated RKO. Cheers, --  T H  L  01:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we should note on the page that they are also known as Team Rated-RKO. Just my opinion for the situation. -- Jลмєs Mลxx  ™ ' Msg me ' My contribs  02:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

There isn't enough evidence for them being called that at the moment. --  T H  L  05:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it comes from Lawler mistakenly calling them that ever since they headed a "Team Rated RKO" with other wrestlers. Tim Long 00:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I Think Team Rated RKO was just a title their Survivor Series team was given just like their opponents for that specific match were dubbed "Team DX" even though DX is not given that title regularly. I could be wrong but I was just trying to help clear things up.

Sidewalk slam Reverse DDT?
I Think That We should add it because Rated RKO Is Based of of Edge And Christian's Double Team Move set. (Double Con-Chair To)     chris 08:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't even think I've seen them do that once.«»bd(talk stalk) 12:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * And we have no evidence that they are based off of E&C. --  The  Hyb  rid  03:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a serious Edge fan that can't tell the difference between Orton and Christian. (bad joke) The con-chair-to is an Edge trademark (as well as a Christian trademark, but that's not the point). Of course he'll use it as part of a heel true tag team, it doesn't matter if Christian's the partner or not. No, Rated-RKO never done the sidewalk slam and DDT combo, or the stack-superplex. Don't put it in the set. 63.215.27.139 05:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Requested Page protection.
Due to the current wave of vandalism I have just requested this page be protected. Govvy 18:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Piece Of Trivia
Both Memebers Of Rated RKO Have Beaten Mick Foley In A Hardcore Match
 * Lots of people have beaten Mick Foley in lots of matches. Not notable«»bd(talk stalk) 17:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes But Foley Is One Of The Most Famous Hardcore Wrestlers In The World And Is Highley Respect By Hardcore Fans. I Personally Think Its Notable. (Id Rather Be Hated For Who I Am, Than Loved For Who I Am Not 23:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC))

It seems incredibly random to me. And like Bdve said, lots of people have beaten him. --  The  Hyb  rid  23:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

God You People Bore Me (Id Rather Be Hated For Who I Am, Than Loved For Who I Am Not 23:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC))

We're Wikipedians, when we aren't recording information in a monotonous tone we’re playing lawyer by interpreting policies on talk pages, or transcribing templates to warn vandals. Of course we're boring. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  23:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair Enough. Anyway I Thought It Over And This Is What I Came Up With:


 * Both Edge And Orton Have Never Been Beaten By Hardcore Legend Mick Foley In His Specialty The Hardcore Match. Orton Beat Foley At Backlash 2004 Pinning Him After An RKO Onto A Barbed Wire Baseball Bat. 2 Years Later, Edge Would Go On To Beat Foley At WrestleMania 22 Following A Spear Through The Outside Of The Ring Through A Flaming Table. As Of 2007 Foley Has Neither Faced Nor Beaten Both Members Of Rated RKO In A Hardcore Match. (Id Rather Be Hated For Who I Am, Than Loved For Who I Am Not 14:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC))


 * I wouldn't say it's notable. Foley's more-or-less retired.  If they'd both beaten him in hardcore matches when he was a full-time wrestler it might have been more notable, but even then I'm dubious.  --Dave. 21:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * He's more or less played the part of a glorified jobber since he's gone into semi-retirement. --  The  Hyb  rid  01:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

How about the fact they both hold victories over him at Mania? User:Wrestlinglover420
 * What is this obsession with Mick Foley? Beating him is not notable (Foley is 28-41-3 on PPV), and is an odd piece of trivia. BTW, their name is spelled Rated-RKO. TJ Spyke 00:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Disbanded
I think we can consider Rated-RKO disbanded. They have been having serious turmoil as of lat. I didn't watch RAW 2night, but where they announced as Rated RKO in the 8-man tag? KE

I don't think so, they where still announced at Rated RKO!! Govvy 13:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * They're still together, but the P25 gave them separate spots, saying that they splitted... even though this Frieday they were still billed as Rated-RKO... so let's let it like that for now, we'll see later on. ­­Talon Kelson 05:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)