Talk:Rationing/Archives/2013

military rations
Shouldn't there be a separate page for military rations, which aren't really the same as rationing? Somebody who knows about this should definitely take it on. Tfine80 20:17, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree, except this is a rationing page, not a rations page, so, N really on point...unless you got disambiguated here, in which case, somebody needs a dictionary.
 * On rationing trivia, I've heard Canada's rationing lasted into the '50s, too (I've heard 1953 cited). And the U.S. "A" ration card of 1942 provided 11 liters of gas. (Somewhere, I heard a typical 10000 ton WW2 tanker would provide enough to run on an A card for something like 7000 years...). Trekphiler 07:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

about the article
this article should cover rationing in Australia. the article itself is biased towards the US, as there is only a small section on worldwide rationing other than in the US, while most of the article is on rationing in the US. please separate into another article like rationing in the US or link to other articles.58.107.30.145 11:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Anyone is free to add information about rationing in Australia. The article isn't biased as I'm certain information about non-US rationing would be welcome. If you feel other articles should be linked to then you can do so. Bill faulk 16:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

World War II
I think the article should talk more about World War II rationing, which is what most people want/need to know about when they search rationing. Also, the article isn't titled 'United States rationing' and thus I do hope more people add things about other countries and their rationing histories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.101.133 (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Frist?
OK, has anyone else heard about Frist and his office vaccinations? If not, that should probably be removed as a very likely attack. 68.39.174.238 02:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Norman Rockwell painting.
Just a thought. Do you think the Norman Rockwell painting of the ration board might be an interesting addition? 66.191.19.217 (talk) 05:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't use it because it is copyrighted. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Europe
The Europe section during World War II could potentially contain a good deal of unique information but it is not aligned with the rest of the article and currently contains very little on topic. The article seems to focus on America, and clearly all the other sections might be expanded, but this one degenerates into absurdity. Information on things like German rationing, rather than relation to America should be included.DearthOfMateriel (talk) 06:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Defeated countries also had ration cards well into the 50's in order to help paying the war debts. In Romania, the ration cards went out of use in 1954 and were introduced back at the end of the 1980s, officially "to implement the rational/scientific nourishment of the people", unofficially to help paying the external debt and from 1989 on to help buying gold to sustain the Romanian Leu. --Alex:D (talk) 20:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I copied it into the article, which anybody else might have done since last June. Grumpily, I am your obtd. svt, GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:00, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

|Civilian rationing is far older than WWI
The article claims that first use of civilian rationing was during WWI. This is highly unlikely as it would have been common practice to ration civilians during any siege. Specifically (any by no means the first occurrence of civilian rations) it is well documented that civilian rationing in effect during the Boer Wars at the Siege of Ladysmith and Siege of Kimberley --NJR_ZA (talk) 09:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it can pre-date that even - during the French Revolutionary Wars, Lazare Carnot tried to stop the French population using luxuary goods and standardised bread (Pain d'egalite) to limit consumption. I think that would count as rationing, but I do not have the sources... -- Brigade Piron —Preceding undated comment added 13:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Penicillin "rationing"
The article says, probably correctly, that penicillin was rationed to civilians during the war. The problem with the statement is not its authenticity. The problem is that the average person had never heard of penicillin nor would have had the medical sense to request it. Sulfa drugs, yes. Penicillin wasn't a "wonder drug" it became after the war; it was an unknown drug.

Like "discovering" in 2073, that controlled fusion was "rationed" in 2013. We are not aware that it exists today! Student7 (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

military rations
Shouldn't there be a separate page for military rations, which aren't really the same as rationing? Somebody who knows about this should definitely take it on. Tfine80 20:17, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree, except this is a rationing page, not a rations page, so, N really on point...unless you got disambiguated here, in which case, somebody needs a dictionary.
 * On rationing trivia, I've heard Canada's rationing lasted into the '50s, too (I've heard 1953 cited). And the U.S. "A" ration card of 1942 provided 11 liters of gas. (Somewhere, I heard a typical 10000 ton WW2 tanker would provide enough to run on an A card for something like 7000 years...). Trekphiler 07:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

about the article
this article should cover rationing in Australia. the article itself is biased towards the US, as there is only a small section on worldwide rationing other than in the US, while most of the article is on rationing in the US. please separate into another article like rationing in the US or link to other articles.58.107.30.145 11:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Anyone is free to add information about rationing in Australia. The article isn't biased as I'm certain information about non-US rationing would be welcome. If you feel other articles should be linked to then you can do so. Bill faulk 16:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

World War II
I think the article should talk more about World War II rationing, which is what most people want/need to know about when they search rationing. Also, the article isn't titled 'United States rationing' and thus I do hope more people add things about other countries and their rationing histories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.101.133 (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Frist?
OK, has anyone else heard about Frist and his office vaccinations? If not, that should probably be removed as a very likely attack. 68.39.174.238 02:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Norman Rockwell painting.
Just a thought. Do you think the Norman Rockwell painting of the ration board might be an interesting addition? 66.191.19.217 (talk) 05:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't use it because it is copyrighted. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Europe
The Europe section during World War II could potentially contain a good deal of unique information but it is not aligned with the rest of the article and currently contains very little on topic. The article seems to focus on America, and clearly all the other sections might be expanded, but this one degenerates into absurdity. Information on things like German rationing, rather than relation to America should be included.DearthOfMateriel (talk) 06:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Defeated countries also had ration cards well into the 50's in order to help paying the war debts. In Romania, the ration cards went out of use in 1954 and were introduced back at the end of the 1980s, officially "to implement the rational/scientific nourishment of the people", unofficially to help paying the external debt and from 1989 on to help buying gold to sustain the Romanian Leu. --Alex:D (talk) 20:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I copied it into the article, which anybody else might have done since last June. Grumpily, I am your obtd. svt, GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:00, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

|Civilian rationing is far older than WWI
The article claims that first use of civilian rationing was during WWI. This is highly unlikely as it would have been common practice to ration civilians during any siege. Specifically (any by no means the first occurrence of civilian rations) it is well documented that civilian rationing in effect during the Boer Wars at the Siege of Ladysmith and Siege of Kimberley --NJR_ZA (talk) 09:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it can pre-date that even - during the French Revolutionary Wars, Lazare Carnot tried to stop the French population using luxuary goods and standardised bread (Pain d'egalite) to limit consumption. I think that would count as rationing, but I do not have the sources... -- Brigade Piron —Preceding undated comment added 13:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Penicillin "rationing"
The article says, probably correctly, that penicillin was rationed to civilians during the war. The problem with the statement is not its authenticity. The problem is that the average person had never heard of penicillin nor would have had the medical sense to request it. Sulfa drugs, yes. Penicillin wasn't a "wonder drug" it became after the war; it was an unknown drug.

Like "discovering" in 2073, that controlled fusion was "rationed" in 2013. We are not aware that it exists today! Student7 (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)