Talk:Raton, New Mexico

I strongly disagree with deletion of the PHOTOS section on this page.
One of the admins just deleted an entire section from this page. I consider this an act of unthinking vandalism. I believe the admin involved, Nytteend (sp?) may not have intended this act on his or her part to be vandalism ... however, that person's stated logic / reason for their act of deletion is, in my opinion, sheer "out of touch with reality" nonsense. Stated reason for deletion of the list of INTERNAL LINKS TO PHOTOS WHICH WERE LEGALLY AND PROPERLY STORED ON WIKIPEDIA -- "Wikipedia is not a photo hosting site". (Huh!? Double-huh?) This seems to me to be saying that grass is not green; even if it is. It makes no sense; given the facts. I looked up the section on "What Wikipedia is not" ... and I saw no reference to that idea, at all. In fact, I found much to support just the opposite assertion. Questions: If Wikipedia is not in fact a photo hosting site, then why are they hosting photos? Why are they actively asking for people to upload photos or other images -- so long as they own / control the legal rights to them -- to the Creative Commons area ... on Wikipedia's servers? Why are they then nicely asking for permission to have those photos used, under whatever license the copyright holder decides to grant them, by other people, across the globe? Why then did Wikipedia's programmers go to the trouble to write code that would read and interpret short coded text messages, which simply say "Image" and then has a colon after it -- and then the name of a photo, stored on Wikipedia's servers? No external URL was referenced in any of the links the admin deleted ... so how then could this be a case of anything BUT Wikipedia hosting photos? Why did Wikipedia's programmers go to all of the trouble involved with uploading, storing, accessing, even thumb-nailing images that people like me, who owned the copyrights to them, took the time and trouble to upload ... if "Wikipedia isn't a photo hosting site"? All the verifiable facts lead in a single direction: that photo section had no business being deleted; admin or not! Personally, if the admin in question doesn't do the right thing, and revert their mistake, I'll have to file it away under ignorance, envy and/or jealousy! (Take a good look at the several artistically-composed, quality photographs of natural beauty that I had uploaded to the Creative Commons area, last night, and then tell me those unique photos of this local area don't belong?!) I hope the admin in question does more research, and figures out they are doing harm in this case. Censorship is not allowed on Wikipedia ... and what else could deletion of the links to internal portions of Wikipedia be? Why accept photos, but refuse to show them? Wardster321 (talk) 01:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Raton formally Willow Springs
Raton was originally named Willow Springs but the name was changed to Raton in 1878. Can anyone tell me where this information came from?

Thanks

--Susanjxp (talk) 00:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've expanded (and corrected) this statement and given a reference. Julyan is a good source for any questions about New Mexico place names. --Uncia (talk) 00:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "Formerly", then, you mean? Nyttend (talk) 03:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I am originally from Raton, my understanding of where the name Raton came from is when the spanish explorers happened on what is now "Goat Hill" is that looked down and a village of local indians where so frightened by the site of the explorers they started to run around. One of the explorers said that they look like little rats or mice running around. So it was known or nicked name Raton. During the time of the Spanish Conquistadores that is what that area was known as. The name was later adopted as the name because of the nickname it was given. Willow Springs I understand was a common name and was not unique and did not reflect the soutwest spanish roots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.222.203.235 (talk) 13:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

PHOTO REQUEST: Post office murals
If anyone in the town is reading this, we would love to get some photos of the murals at the post office for []. They're called "First Mail Crossing Raton Pass,” and “Unloading the Mail at Raton. One is apparently at the post office building 108 S 2nd St. Raton, NM 87740 and one is at the Raton Museum, per https://livingnewdeal.org/projects/arthur-johnson-memorial-library-artwork-raton-nm/ TIA! jengod (talk) 04:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC)