Talk:Raudvatnet

Not orphaned
Can't see any reason to make this article "orphaned", since such an argument collides with the Wikiproject Norway going on, documenting geography in Nordic countries. -- Adamaisaka 23:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I readded the tag. There is only one page linking to this one, and only from the article its apparent that more existing articles could in fact link here. __meco 17:19, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting evidence
According to the last paragraph there is a major connetion between Tverrvatnet and Raudvatnet, however, Google maps shows no such link. Either something is wrong with one of the sources here or an explanation is needed. __meco 17:19, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have seen the Google maps. A Norwegian atlas covering Norway - Det Bestes Store Norge Atlas, Forlaget Det Beste A/S, Oslo, 1st edition, 1983, ISBN 82-7010-152-4, shows Raudvatnet and Tverrvatnet on page 57. On the map in that atlas, you will also see the two lakes connected together through a small inlet. The connection is not major, but it is there.


 * And has caused some irritating naming confusions: The river Tverråga flows from lake Raudvatnet, northwestwards. However, it is named after Tverrvatnet, south of Raudvatnet (!). Those who once was giving the river Tverråga its name, did not consider Raudvatnet as a lake of its own, but as the northern part of Tverrvatnet. Personally, I consider Tverrvatnet as the southern part of Raudvatnet, since the latter is the largest.


 * East of Tverrvatnet there is a farm from the 1770s. In a book from 1964, covering the history of farms in Rana, the name Raudvatnet is used in the index to those pages covering the history of Tverrvatnet farm. __Adamaisaka 00:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * On this sattelite photo based map -http://www.geonames.org/3133532/tverrvatnet.html - Tverrvatnet is shown connected with Raudvatnet through what may be termed a major river. __Adamaisaka 01:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Two articles or one?
This article has been rated as a Start class. It is possible to write about settlers. The farm east of Tverrvatnet played an important role during the history of trade and cultural exchange between Mo i Rana and Sweden. Traders spent their night on that farm (5 øre for one night, 10 øre if the trader also also had a horse). Such traders became even more necessary during the catastrophic year of hunger in 1869 Sweden.

King Oscar II of Sweden visited Mo i Rana on July 13, 1873, discussing among other things the needs of a road between northern Sweden and Mo i Rana. One result of this royal visit, was what we today call European route E12, passing east of Tverrvatnet.

Farmers on the eastern shores of Tverrvatnet plays an important role in the history of Norwegian-Swedish trade, as well as European route E12.

However &minus; does the history of that area belong to Raudvatnet or Tverrvatnet? Locals appearently haven't distinguished between these two lakes, in one point of time. We may assume that the name form Tverrvatnet is the oldest, since using hematite from the «red mountain» in creating red house painting is closely connected with the mining company Bossmo Gruber in Rana.

The correct name on the river Tverråga, in the local dialect, should have been «Rauvassåga» &minus; if Raudvatnet was the original name of the lake.

I do not even agree with myself, due to local naming conventions/confusions. :)

Therefore, I added the last paragraph about Tverrvatnet, without saying so much about it &minus; just in case someone wanted to isolate Tverrvatnet in a separate article. __Adamaisaka 22:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Began to write about Tverrvatnet farm, since response has not been given around the Tverrvatnet/Raudvatnet name confusion. __Adamaisaka 02:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)