Talk:Rautaruukki (pusher)

Towboat vs. Pusher vs. Tugboat
I created the article as "Rautaruukki (pusher)", but it was almost instantly renamed "Rautaruukki (towboat)". However, Rautaruukki is definitely not a towboat, so I moved it back under the original name. I apologize for the swift action that could also be viewed as an edit war, but the new name was obviously incorrect.

While pusher vessels are sometimes also called tugboats, both the shipping company and the classification society refer to Rautaruukki and her sister vessel, Steel, by using the term "pusher". It is also the term used in all of the publications I used as reference material for this article and the one about the Finnpusku system, and IMHO describes the vessel better than the term "tugboat", which I would use to describe a. I might rewrite the article about tugboats in the future and probably will write a separate article about the integrated systems in which I will also describe the major features of the pushers and how they differ from "normal" tugboats, so I would prefer to leave the article as it is for now, with the red link pointing to pusher vessel. I am, of course, open to discussion. Tupsumato (talk) 20:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I stand corrected - apparently towboat is used to refer to pusher vessels. Well, you learn something new every day. However, my earlier point still stands — I'll work on the articles related to the subject and fix the links and names when I'm finished.Tupsumato (talk) 20:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * That's just what I was going to explain to you. I don't mind the page name but I'm going to pipe the red link to pusher vessel back to towboat where it belongs. Maybe we should also have a redirect from "pushing vessel" to towboat. De728631 (talk) 20:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually I already changed it (and the category) when I noticed my error. It seems that I've already piped "pusher vessel" to "towboat" in one of my earlier articles. Tupsumato (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright. Anyhow, kiitos for the nice article. De728631 (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)