Talk:Rave Master/Archive 1

Bring
And what does bring mean? Looks like a noun but I had to do a google search to convince myself it wasn't a typo for being. RJFJR 16:37, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Something that brings darkness perhaps? —Philip N.✉ 20:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * So it really means 'Dark Bringer' (which sounds quite ominous)? RJFJR 02:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Dark Bring is used in the English manga. The manga names should be used. WhisperToMe 20:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Dark Bring is also the official name in the Japanese manga. Maybe it is intended or it may just be Engrish(like Third Children in Evangelion). I think the term should be kept. feathered_serpent 14:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, if you consider the fact this is a Japanese manga and the fact the author likes to use English to Japanese jokes and hinds, the word "bring" would be pronounced as "bling". Most of the names of places and person are somehow related with song style and dances, the "bling" theory is not too far off.

--Ancientanubis 21:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Cleaning up
ya i'm also going in and doin alot of cleaning up on this...

all the bullets and stuff are so close together and all in plain text that is so hard to tell one thing from the other

EX


 * Oracion Six (The Top 6 generals in the Shadow Guard) (Oracion Seis in Japanese):
 * Shuda (Shūda): Former member of the Oracion Six, fought Haru and lost his hand. Is now on Haru's side (of sorts). His Dark Bring, Geo Blast, allowed him to create an enormous explosion wherever he pleased. As of Volume 5, he is no longer a Demon Card member.
 * Deep Snow: He was a spy for King. He eventually worked his way up to become a General in the Empire. Deep Snow was able to find out many secrets about the empire, and he was able to help the Demon Card turn the Empire into ruins. Deep Snow was also able to get many of the soldiers to become part of the Demon Guard as well. He has enormous powers, and Lucia choose him to become the replacement for Shuda. In Volume 13, he was officially appointed the new member of the Oracion Six. However, Deep Snow is also a coward because he tried to kill Haru and his friends while they were injured because of their fight with Jegan's dragons. In the end of Volume 19, Shuda came to Haru's resue and started a fight with Deep Snow.
 * Reina: A Silver Claimer like Musica; her Dark Bring is called White Kiss and it grants her the power of creation. She mainly uses that power to turn oxygen atoms into pieces of crystal which can cut through the skin. Reina often uses it to form silver for her attacks. She also searches for the Silver Ray. (Note: Her name comes from the Spanish word "reina", which means "queen".) As of volume 16, she is deceased.
 * Jegan: He owns a wild dragon named Julia, whose intimate love he once vied for some time earlier. Because of it, he bears a wicked grudge against Let, and vice-versa, because he too had special feeling for Julia before she became a wild dragon because of her failure in her trial. He is a member of the Dragon Race, and the younger brother of the Imperial General Jeid. He uses the Dark Bring Yggdrasil, which allows him to control plants. His control over Julia and other dragons is a power of his own it is not related to the dark brings. In Volume 19, he was defeated by Let, and he was killed by Haja's master because of his failure to kill the Rave Master and his friends.
 * Berial: A demon lord, he uses the Dark Bring G-Earth, which allows him to control the ground. A four-eyed demonic bat named Boi Boi often sits on his shoulder
 * Julius: He fights with the ice Dark Bring Armure D'Etoile, which means star armour in French. Using it, he can paralyze opponents, create a sword out of ice, and incase people in ice. He has an unhealthy obsession with his "beauty".
 * Haja: also known as Haja the Infinite, he is considered to be the second strongest High Mage in the world.
 * Lucia Raregroove: The "Blonde Demon", Dark Bring Master. The son of King who was originally thought to have been dead. But in reality, was kept in a high-security prison until he escaped. He possesses "Dark Mother", which is a part of "Sinclaire" the most powerful of the Dark Bring. The one that caused the Overdrive 50 years prior to try and kill Shiba. In Volumes 12 and 13, he became the new King of the Demon Card (Shadow Guard). He restored the Demon Card to its original glory, and he made it even stronger than ever before. He also acquired Decalogue sword (known to has symmetrical change as Ten Commandments has). In Volume 18, he started Project DR (Dark Rendezvous) which combined the several other organizations and powerful warriors, such as the Blue Guardians, to the Demon Card. He plans to use his new found power to destroy Haru. Unfortunately, for him, he was defeated by Haru when Haru used the Sacrifar. He would have been killed if it weren't for Plue. How will the next encounter between Lucia and Haru be?

now looks like this


 * Oracion Six (The Top 6 generals in the Shadow Guard) (Oracion Seis in Japanese):


 * Shuda (Shūda): Former member of the Oracion Six, fought Haru and lost his hand. Is now on Haru's side (of sorts). His Dark Bring, Geo Blast, allowed him to create an enormous explosion wherever he pleased. As of Volume 5, he is no longer a Demon Card member.


 * Deep Snow: He was a spy for King. He eventually worked his way up to become a General in the Empire. Deep Snow was able to find out many secrets about the empire, and he was able to help the Demon Card turn the Empire into ruins. Deep Snow was also able to get many of the soldiers to become part of the Demon Guard as well. He has enormous powers, and Lucia choose him to become the replacement for Shuda. In Volume 13, he was officially appointed the new member of the Oracion Six.  However, Deep Snow is also a coward because he tried to kill Haru and his friends while they were injured because of their fight with Jegan's dragons. In the end of Volume 19, Shuda came to Haru's resue and started a fight with Deep Snow.


 * Reina: A Silver Claimer like Musica; her Dark Bring is called White Kiss and it grants her the power of creation. She mainly uses that power to turn oxygen atoms into pieces of crystal which can cut through the skin. Reina often uses it to form silver for her attacks. She also searches for the Silver Ray. (Note: Her name comes from the Spanish word "reina", which means "queen".) As of volume 16, she is deceased.


 * Jegan: He owns a wild dragon named Julia, whose intimate love he once vied for some time earlier. Because of it, he bears a wicked grudge against Let, and vice-versa, because he too had special feeling for Julia before she became a wild dragon because of her failure in her trial. He is a member of the Dragon Race, and the younger brother of the Imperial General Jeid. He uses the Dark Bring Yggdrasil, which allows him to control plants. His control over Julia and other dragons is a power of his own it is not related to the dark brings. In Volume 19, he was defeated by Let, and he was killed by Haja's master because of his failure to kill the Rave Master and his friends.


 * Berial: A demon lord, he uses the Dark Bring G-Earth, which allows him to control the ground. A four-eyed demonic bat named Boi Boi often sits on his shoulder


 * Julius: He fights with the ice Dark Bring Armure D'Etoile, which means star armour in French. Using it, he can paralyze opponents, create a sword out of ice, and incase people in ice. He has an unhealthy obsession with his "beauty".


 * Haja: also known as Haja the Infinite, he is considered to be the second strongest High Mage in the world.


 * Lucia Raregroove: The "Blonde Demon", Dark Bring Master. The son of King who was originally thought to have been dead. But in reality, was kept in a high-security prison until he escaped. He possesses "Dark Mother", which is a part of "Sinclaire" the most powerful of the Dark Bring. The one that caused the Overdrive 50 years prior to try and kill Shiba. In Volumes 12 and 13, he became the new King of the Demon Card (Shadow Guard). He restored the Demon Card to its original glory, and he made it even stronger than ever before. He also acquired Decalogue sword (known to has symmetrical change as Ten Commandments has). In Volume 18, he started Project DR (Dark Rendezvous) which combined the several other organizations and powerful warriors, such as the Blue Guardians, to the Demon Card. He plans to use his new found power to destroy Haru. Unfortunately, for him, he was defeated by Haru when Haru used the Sacrifar. He would have been killed if it weren't for Plue. How will the next encounter between Lucia and Haru be?

what you all think??

also i agree about the shadow stone and dark being switch --Ancientanubis 21:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Separate pages
are all the "seperate pages" really needed for sections that'll proboly never be made???

ie

Other Rave Warrior Allies- Warriors that help out Haru and his friends, but they don't appear as much as the recurring allies.


 * Gale Glory: Haru's father, he and King set up the Shadow Guard (Shadow Guard in the English Dub) to protect the people. But Gale left when he was not fond of the direction the organization was going. He tried to stop King, but it ended horribly with King's family slaughtered. Before the Ultimate Shadow Stone was placed inside his body, Gale felt the fury of his former friend's rage when his face was scarred and his wife killed before his eyes. He later reappeared and helped his son defeat King, and eventually sacrificed his life to save Haru before the tower's collapse.


 * Cattleya Glory: Haru's sister. She is reluctant to let Haru leave Garage Island. She is the self-proclaimed "Queen of "Karaoke".


 * Nakajima: A strange lifeform that lives stuck to the outside wall of Cattleya and Haru's house. He looks like a flower, but claims that the petal-looking things ringing his round face are feathers. His favorite (and perhaps only) hobby is "golling".


 * Sakura Glory: Haru's mother and Gale's wife, she was killed by King as part of his revenge against her husband.


 * Galein Musica: Musica's grandfather and the blacksmith who created the TCM.


 * Jiggle Butt Gang (Big Butt Bandits in English dub): Three hopeless robbers who have absolutely no talent in robbing, they extremely big booties which they jiggle when excited. Their leader, named Wonderful Gocche, has an affinity with Plue.


 * Alice the elixer maker: A medicine man met by Haru's gang during the journey to Southernberg island. He says "munya" a lot. Although simple-minded in appearance, he is over five hundred years old and 'wields' a giant syringe, containing various fluids, of which switched the souls of Haru, Elie, Musica and Plue around, causing confusion. Alice later cured Elie's broken arm.


 * Saga Pendragon: A prophet of Acapella Island, belonging to Nakajima's race. His poi was stolen by a tiny dandelion named "Dee Dee". His maid, Sonia, knows a lot about flowers.

NOW LOOKIN LIKE THIS

Warriors that help out Haru and his friends, but they don't appear as much as the recurring allies.


 * Gale Glory: Haru's father, he and King set up the Shadow Guard (Shadow Guard in the English Dub) to protect the people. But Gale left when he was not fond of the direction the organization was going. He tried to stop King, but it ended horribly with King's family slaughtered. Before the Ultimate Shadow Stone was placed inside his body, Gale felt the fury of his former friend's rage when his face was scarred and his wife killed before his eyes. He later reappeared and helped his son defeat King, and eventually sacrificed his life to save Haru before the tower's collapse.


 * Cattleya Glory: Haru's sister. She is reluctant to let Haru leave Garage Island. She is the self-proclaimed "Queen of "Karaoke".


 * Nakajima: A strange lifeform that lives stuck to the outside wall of Cattleya and Haru's house. He looks like a flower, but claims that the petal-looking things ringing his round face are feathers. His favorite (and perhaps only) hobby is "golling".


 * Sakura Glory: Haru's mother and Gale's wife, she was killed by King as part of his revenge against her husband.


 * Galein Musica: Musica's grandfather and the blacksmith who created the TCM.


 * Jiggle Butt Gang (Big Butt Bandits in English dub): Three hopeless robbers who have absolutely no talent in robbing, they extremely big booties which they jiggle when excited. Their leader, named Wonderful Gocche, has an affinity with Plue.


 * Alice the elixer maker: A medicine man met by Haru's gang during the journey to Southernberg island. He says "munya" a lot. Although simple-minded in appearance, he is over five hundred years old and 'wields' a giant syringe, containing various fluids, of which switched the souls of Haru, Elie, Musica and Plue around, causing confusion. Alice later cured Elie's broken arm.


 * Saga Pendragon: A prophet of Acapella Island, belonging to Nakajima's race. His poi was stolen by a tiny dandelion named "Dee Dee". His maid, Sonia, knows a lot about flowers.

--Ancientanubis 21:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Split characters section
This article is over the size limit (40kb) and should be split. Most of the information on the page is pertinent to the main article, but the character section is just too long. I suggest that we split the character section and create a new article called Characters of Rave Master and basically copy and paste the entire section of this article into that one. We can leave some of the main characters on the main page (Haru, Elie, Musica, Plue, and Griff) but the rest all need to be moved. If there are no objections, I'll do this later. --Miss Ethereal 15:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree the character section needs cleaning. Do some of the main characters need their own page? --Flyer27
 * I personally don't think they do. As it is, with what is available on the primary characters, there doesn't warrant individual character pages.--Miss Ethereal 19:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've moved the characters section to Characters of Rave Master as stated above. That page still needs heavy copy-editing so please help!  Thank you.  --Miss Ethereal 14:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Decaforce or Ten Commandments?
Before I start an edit war, I'll like to know which name should be used in this page. I noticed some variations around the place; some articles begin with TCM, others begin with Decaforce. As a Singaporean anime and manga reader of Rave, we've always used the name TCM. As far as I know, most areas use that too. Correct me if I'm wrong =) --Koura 16:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know which names are used by which places, but I think it should use the American name, as the articles are contained under the American name of the show. --Raijinili 14:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

And whose bright idea was it not to add Ravelt to the Ten Commandments?

Source?
Where is the "proof" that Rave is on the "100 Best Selling Manga List"? Needs citation. 68.189.82.81 03:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

English-Only Song?
I've been searching for a song played in Rave Master, and I've discovered a little bit of trivia: There's a song that plays in episode 9 (Bite to Eat) while Elie runs across the desert barefoot, but only in the English dub. There used to be only a single hit on Google for the lyrics, which has since disappeared. I post the ones I can remember below:


 * 1) [unknown line],
 * 2)     [Across the mountains?] I will run,
 * 3) [Across/though?] the desert by the moonlight,
 * 4)     I will race to beat the sun.


 * 1) You are my place of shelter.
 * 2) You give me more than strength to borrow.
 * 3) Through the rain and through the cold night,
 * 4) you give me hope for a new tomorrow.

It also does not appear on the "Music Side" CD. (If anyone knows how to acquire this song, please let me know! Thanks.) Otherwise, this might be postable in the trivia section. --Ninjagecko 14:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

happy
i'm happy to see that this page is looking so much better.... thanks everyone for doin so much work on itAncientanubis 21:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Format?
There are a number of occurrences of phrases like the "Dark Bring" (Shadow Stone in the English anime) . Since this is the English Wikipedia should we reword it so it says the "Shadow Stone" (Dark Bring in the original Japanese)?

i dissagree i think all the terms (including the title of the article, Haru's sword, and anything else that has been changed in the english version) should be written using the japanese terms. Just because this is the english wikipedia dosn't mean we have to use the english version of every thing we should use the original.--Greedisland14 16:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I think its best to stick with Dark bring, make more sense than bling.--Monstez 06:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monstez (talk • contribs)

story arc 6
what do you mean when you say not complete in the manga--Greedisland14 01:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Manga Section
I've sorted it into a table, did not include the volume and chapter title as I see that this article follows the America release of the manga. However, the chapters are the same as the Japanese version, therefore I added it in. So as for the titles, let's wait for the official release. And since the table is so long, I suggest we can split it into another article? --Monstez 13:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Rave Stones
Where did all the information on the raves stones go. Could someone please put it back or create a separte article for it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.182.176 (talk) 00:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Theres a section for the Rave stones in the Haru Glory article thats just been added, take a look.

The Edited version
why doesn't it state that the english version has been edited?Bread Ninja (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Volumes 33, 34, and 35?
What will happen to these volumes? Specifically being released in English, because Del Ray is going to be shut down...--Ninjafusion (talk) 18:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)