Talk:Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I'm MarioSoulTruthFan and I'll be reviewing this article in the next days. Do not make changes until I say so. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Infobox

 * How do you know when it recorded?
 * ✅ Now sourced elsewhere in the article :).


 * Genre?
 * You should also add the "Soul" genre in the second source.
 * ✅ I did so now Carbrera (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I did so now Carbrera (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Lead

 * "American recording artist Prince, under the unpronounceable "Love Symbol", as shown on the album cover". → If I remove the sentences with additional information it makes no sense. Re-write


 * "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material". → which album?


 * "completed a "sensual" cover of Crow's 1996 single "Everyday Is a Winding Road"". → not in the body of the article.


 * "the album was conceived as a return to mass markets after Prince spent several years without significant public attention." → same issue as previous


 * "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material." → one song in the body of the article, not the entire album.


 * ,achieved modest success, → bias, unless some reviewer as said that.


 * "peaking at number 63 on the Billboard Hot 100 and becoming the album's only charted song".→ peaked...became...

Recording and release

 * However, recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, and the entire project was abandoned. → However, as soon as the recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, the entire project was abandoned.


 * Name the studios after the cities and/or states.


 * and London, England, immediately following the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), released just three months prior. → and London, England, just after the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), three months prior.


 * See others links above for dates of release.


 * See one of the links I posted above for more information to add here.


 * Change the name to "Background and release" since now you have information on the artwork of the album.

Composition

 * "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic departs from the use of soul on The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale." → it does depart but not completly. So re-arrange that.
 * ✅ Reworded. Carbrera (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


 * "and is his one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years" → and is one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years


 * "Tangerine" is a ballad that contains "savvy pop" elements, comparable to Prince's previous efforts → "savvy pop" elements are left to "So Far, So Pleased"; what do you mean with "comparable to Prince's previous efforts" it's not stated nothing like that in the article?


 * the track was produced to appeal to modern radio and the mainstream crowd. → this is not in the source provided.
 * ✅ Removed.


 * "Segue II" is again a silent track, followed by promotional singles "Man'O'War" and "Baby Knows", the former of which containing "falsetto soul" and the latter featuring contributions from Crow, including her vocals and use of a harmonica. → wrong reference,the review is not on Discogs for sure, also remove that source.


 * You wave a couple of reviews in the CD universe reference use them, structuring them appropriately and according to individual references. For example: → wikilink everything properly.

Promotion

 * Unlike Prince's previous albums, he did not embark on a concert tour to promote Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic. → re-phrase


 * Internet movie database is not a reliable source, replace it.


 * Unlike his previous releases, the remix album was not made commercially available, so the album was also unable to chart. → needs source

Singles

 * "The remixes also included vocals from Eve". → source


 * remove the Discogs reference and replace it by any other.


 * "So Far, So Pleased", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani, and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Eve → "So Far, So Pleased" and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani and by Eve, respectively.


 * "Man'O'War" → link it

Critical reception

 * Remove from the Album ratings box the reviews that say positive, favorable etc, anyone can change that and sounds bias.


 * Link music critics → music journalism


 * the included collaborations → the collaborations


 * to a symbol." → to a symbol".


 * trying to recapture the spirit of '99." → same as previous


 * In the end of this GA review I believe you have at least more two reviews I added the links.

Commercial performance

 * A success on → Despite that, it was able to peak at number eight


 * Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs → Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Albums


 * unsuccessful → failed to achieve any notability

Track listing

 * All songs written and produced by Prince, except "Everyday Is a Winding Road", which was written by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian McLeod. → needs reference.

Credits and personnel

 * Mike Scott - guitar (on #3) → Mike Scott - guitar (3)


 * That's not the official prince website, remove that reference.


 * Use " –" instead of "-" (click edit to copy paste properly)

Charts

 * Great.

Certifications

 * Add accessdate.


 * Fine

Release history

 * The release was not worlwide.


 * https://www.amazon.es/Rave-Un2-Joy-Fantastic-Prince/dp/B000028U0T


 * https://www.amazon.de/Rave-Un2-Joy-Fantastic-Artist/dp/B000028U0T


 * https://www.amazon.com/Rave-Un2-Joy-Fantastic-Prince/dp/B000028U0T
 * ✅ (This source must be mistaken since every other source says the 2nd, except this one says the following week.)


 * https://www.amazon.fr/Rave-Un2-Joy-Fantastic-Prince/dp/B000028U0T and many more
 * ✅ (Didn't add since it only said 1999) → it says "CD (15 novembre 1999)"

Overall GA review
This sources could and should be used in the article. They are not only reliable but they have valid information, I just googled "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic" and all of these appear in the first 10 pages.
 * http://www.peta.org/blog/hes-real-prince/ → some information that could be used to improve the article.
 * ✅ Used.


 * http://www.stereogum.com/1685960/prince-albums-from-worst-to-best/franchises/counting-down/attachment/raveun2thejoyfantastic/ → as previous
 * ✅ Used.


 * https://www.yahoo.com/music/princes-paisley-archives-10-items-warners-vault-wed-180207098.html → same
 * ✅ Used.
 * I have used this source. However, it is from Billboard so it is listed as such within the article. Carbrera (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


 * http://www.hotpress.com/Prince/music/reviews/albums/Rave-Un2-To-The-Joy-Fantastic/466789.html → same
 * ✅ Used.


 * https://books.google.pt/books?id=nwgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA7-IA5&lpg=PA7-IA5&dq=Rave+Un2+the+Joy+Fantastic&source=bl&ots=M_DZA-C797&sig=URe_KpWflAIAY6NW8EYw3fug-KA&hl=pt-PT&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjY-rKL18PNAhWFXRQKHd1iDG44WhDoAQgkMAI#v=onepage&q=Rave%20Un2%20the%20Joy%20Fantastic&f=false → same
 * ✅ Used.


 * All in all, this article has some issues regarding not only prose and writing but also references; not to mention lack of information that can be easily found as I have posted just above. I'll put this article on hold (it's not a quick fail) and I will give you 2 weeks to address all of these issues, this includes the expansion of the per said article with not only the references I posted but also others you can easily find. Good luck MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh gosh I completely forgot about this article! I'm gonna be gone in a few days for two weeks; do you think I could have a bit more time going at this article?? Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure how long? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:21, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * MarioSoulTruthFan, Carbrera, I only see one minor edit in the nearly six weeks since the above exchange. Perhaps a firm deadline could be set for the work to be done, assuming the review hasn't run out of time? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I have been out of town for the last couple of weeks. He missed the first topics and failed to correct the websites. I will warn Carbrera.
 * You must address the final issues, otherwise I will fail this article. You have one week, on September 3, 2016 if nothing has been done I will fail the article. Best regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe I took care of it? Thanks for your leniency. Carbrera (talk) 03:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I left some notes with "not done" in this page, please address them, most of them are new. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC).
 * gladly passing. I would advise you to see the importance of this article in the Pop and R&B/Soul project. Doesn't seem to be "mid-importance". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2016 (UTC)