Talk:Raven (BBC TV series)/Archive 1

New info.
If anybody cares, at 4.30pm, 21/11/05, a new series was aired. I have also added a bit more info.

If anyone is listening to me either, I think that this article needs a bit of work, especially in the section listing the challenges. I think I might fix that myself actually...

Added Note: Hi if yuur doing a section about Raven: The island i would love to help. I was Tanla on it.

Yes i do care
hello and yes i'd love to do a section on Raven :the island - i can't beleive that loads of people found it boring! I'm the number 0ne raven fan and know absolutely loads of stuff!
 * There's a separate article for RtI here: Raven: The Island Feel free to add to it there, rather than the main article which is just an overview of the spin-offs. I didn't see it myself so can't really edit it any further. SynergyBlades (talk) 22:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Season 5 warriors
Anonymous editor(s), could you please explain why you insist on a) removing an end-spoiler notice, and b) repeating the finishing order from the main Warriors section. Eludium-q36 14:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm one of the anonymous editor(s) but I didn't do any of that stuff.

re. editing
I edited some of the challenge information, you did say it needed some more. However I definitely did not remove an end spoiler notice. Also the only warrior thing I edited was the entry about the series 1 warrior, to add why Gaale dropped out, and like I said on the entry, it is not known what injury she sustained.

Also I think that Raven: The Island could do with a lot more information. However I missed most of that series so I'm not the one to comment on that.

**Jules** 23:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to whoever tidied the article up.


 * Jules** 18:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Sources required
Anonymous editors have added claims to the actor playing Nevar, and the identity of the 4th ultimate warrior. Both of these claims need external sources - a web page, or a document that the public can see. Please only remove the Fact tag if you can provide those sources. Eludium-q36 18:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't me who did that but I think I know the person who did. Will ask them about it.


 * Jules** 21:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Re-start
It is time to seek consensus to be bold. The article we should be aiming for is one that provides an introduction for someone who has spotted Raven on their TV listings mag, or who has seen one programme, and wonders what the heck is going on. On that basis, I propose to remove all the games (they're covered on UK Gameshows), all the losing contestants (they're simply not notable), and condensing most of the other text down as far as possible. The proposed revision is here. I think the best approach is for editors to leave their comments below; if I get a rough consensus to proceed, I'll put this version live next weekend. Eludium-q36 19:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Why "ACTUALLY"?
While reading this article, I came across the clause: "...and Lamar was actually called Mark McLaughlin."

Is there a reason why the word "actually" is used? --- Super Duck

Bit long...
Can we not make this into manageable chunks? It's confusing... Uncle Montezuma  20:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Season 5
In this season, there are more highlights than the other 4.

Serious Clean Up Needed
This whole article is dreadfully written, especially the sections underneath the contestants of each series, for example after series six is written:

Reply: You're never going to know who got the furthest exactly are you!!! And they're not all going to be pushed off at exactly the same place!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.200.185 (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The furthest achieved on the Way of the Warrior was probably[If the where all pushed off at the same point is it not equal] by Kerud, Tonesh or Tezan, all of which were pushed off by the second shield.
 * 1) In week 1, after winning back a life, Kenat won 5 rings but at the last stand Raven said that Kenat had 1 life and three rings left. [is this at all necessary]
 * 2) Kerud, at the last stand, looked like he had received a black eye. He also seamed[um...seemed?]to put his cylinder in Kenats block.
 * 3) in week 1 at the Last stand Kerud had banged his eye somewhere and it really hurt[just seems, well, childish] which caused his black eye.
 * 4) And[Never start a sentence with and] in week 1 day 3 Galna looked like[is it necessary to speculate over such trivial things?] she had received a stye (an eye injury[its an infection not an injury])
 * 5) In the Final week when Nejad knocked Tonesh of the Balance Beam she said "Ouch!" as she banged her arm. Which Nejads Weapon did. [Just seems pointless, childish, weak and generally of no importance.]
 * 6) In the Final Week in Battering Ram, You could hear Tezan call Tonesh and Rohak by their real name "Well done Lynton" and "Yes Jake".
 * 7) In Week 1 after Ramso did the Leap of faith she said "I Jumped hehehehe[Did she say heheheheh or did she laugh?]" [Why is it important what someone said after doing one of the challenges, especially if it's "I Jumped hehehehe"]
 * 8) In Week [In week what??? wikipedia should not be littered with un-ended sentences.]

This is just a brief extract illustrating the absurdity of this article, it needs a serious re-working so it actually makes grammatical sense and isn't just full of worthless bits of random information. Unfortunately i do not know enough about this show to rewrite the article so i would very happy if someone else could do it please. CDuck2 19:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed - I will have a go.
Someone's clearly not got the point of this wiki article - I shall delete all the stuff as mentioned above - please someone correct anything I do wrong though, I am extremely knowledgeable about Raven but very new to Wikipedia!

Lulija-the-raven 22:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Article Now Has Appropriate References
Have referenced all parts of the article to appropriate series of programs or websites.

Lulija-the-raven 23:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Splitting this article
I propose that we split this article into several pieces, including seperate pages for spinoff shows, and perhaps one for the list of challenges. It seems too long for me.

I am not the best Wikipedian, but I will have a go myself, I just want advice from others before I attempt. Squid 13:56, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

re. Splitting the article
I'm new here but having to find my feet quickly. I think the split may be a good idea. I added the template for the TV programs by the way, as reccomended by the wiki kids TV thing. Go for it

Lulija-the-raven 20:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, willdo asap. Squidnchips 18:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
Have cleaned up the article a little, made some tables, edited language, etc. Also wikified the Raven: Series 1-3 article, renamed it List of Raven series (as per most other TV shows, and since with tables, the article won't be as long and we can fit it in one article), but haven't got round to doing the tables for Series 4-6. In addition, since the article's already quite long I reckon we should open up Raven: The Island and Raven: The Secret Temple articles to separate those out - they're currently redirects to this article but we can change that. SynergyBlades 03:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Nice job, looks good and well organised. Lulija-the-raven 18:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)