Talk:Rawlins Lowndes

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I listed him as the father of Thomas and William, based on the U.S Conress Bioguide which shows them as brothers. But, the dates and place of birth don't fit. I'm sure that Thomas was Rawlins' son, but I don't think Mattherw is. Needs research.... Lou I 21:52, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Rawlins Lowndes: sources and children
Yes, Lou. One of the sources for him is (I think) the SC Biographical Directory (or something along those lines - I can't find my relevant source note naming it for some reason: my lousy filing) which is NOT always a desperately reliable source, however nicely it may have been printed and bound. A more carefully worked through source is one of those little family genealogy books by George Bigelow Chase, Genealogist  1835 - 1902, entitled Lowndes of South Carolina   1876,  (Published Boston Mass, USA  in 1876 by A Williams & Company), Page 12. You never quite know with these family genealogy books, but this one apears to me relatively careful and honest. Anyhow, if you google 'Rawlins Lowndes' you get to 'my' genealogy page on the Lowndes family in South Carolina which summarises my understanding of how the genealogy works.

I've not come across any son called Matthew. Also Matthew wasn't, as far as I can see, a family name for these Lowndess at this time.

But by his second wife, Mary Cartwright ? - 1772, Rawlins Lowndes begat Thomas Lowndes 1766 - 1843 who himself had a reasonably prominent political career.

By his third wife, young Sarah Jones 1757 - 1801, Rawlins Lowndes begat William Jones Lowndes 1782 - 1822 who also had a political career, cut short by his early death. He died at sea and I have a note that his widow throughout her life always remembered the noise of his body being thrown into the sea. More than you wanted to know?

I'm not sure what happens if one enters links to these talk pages, but try this...

http://www.hillmanc.fsnet.co.uk/lowndes.htm

and one of his third wife:

http://www.hillmanc.fsnet.co.uk/Images/Sarah_Jones_Lowndes_Picture.htm

Success Charles01 06:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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The article states that Lowndes returned to the General Assembly in 1778, just in time to debate the new US Constitution. This is clearly impossible, as the Convention did not take place until 1787. Was this just a transposition typo? That seems inconsistent with the later dates of his service.

DCrosby 12 June 2007

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see my note on the William Lowndes (congressman) talk page.Jweaver28 (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I cleaned this up more and added citations, but didn't remove the additional citations needed tag. First, I could not find a source giving even a ballpark number on his slaveholdings, which seem critical to his opposition to the U.S. Constitution drafted in 1788; the reconstituted federal census records really just show him on various lists of potential jurors. Also, someone needs to check on his actual legislative history, because the family biography on ancestry.com seems to indicate that he was not a legislator during the prewar period when he was a prosecutor, and may be also not while he was a judge. I've encountered that dual-body prohibition in Virginia of that era and wouldn't be surprised if that also were true in South Carolina. The findagrave and national governors association bios don't even mention that he was a judge; even though his Stamp Act opinion of May 1766 was the first on that legislation and crucial according to his family biography. Finally, weeks ago when researching one of his sons, I came across a source that said Rawlins had petitioned to have his British citizenship restored after the war, but I saw no sign in this quick review. I really should have been working on personal business this afternoon instead of working on this because I was peeved that the same sleazy real estate investors who told me to shut up online several years ago called and left another soliciting robo-voicemail using a spoofed number after I posted changes early this afternoon while trying to replicate an ancestry.com problem I encountered over the weekend.Jweaver28 (talk) 23:51, 26 March 2019 (UTC)