Talk:Ray Hill (British activist)

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Ray Hill's book "The Other Face Of Terror" is a tissue of lies. For an irrefutably documented refutation, check out "Liars Ought To Have Good Memories" - free download. VennerRoad (talk) 16:34, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Regarding this and some of your other recent edits - please familiarise yourself with WP:V as it is the cornerstone of editing. If you want your edits to survive you must always provide reliable sources to back them up and your own opinion (or mine, or anybody else's) doesn't count. Cheers. Keresaspa (talk) 17:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

The book cited above is a reliable source; my colleague and I spent months researching it. Check out the footnotes if you are not convinced. On my SearchlightArchive website you will also find press reports about his activities, including this one: http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/searchlightarchive/s_a_s_b_report_page_5.html

Again, Ray Hill's book is a tissue of lies. A Baron VennerRoad (talk) 15:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:SPS. Keresaspa (talk) 18:31, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Self-published means what exactly; the term small publisher is more accurate. And "reputable" publisher means what? Check the footnotes and you'll see what I mean. For example, on page 28 of his book, Hill claims to have entered the far right through AIMS in 1968 - which is true, but on page 265 he forgets himself and claims he knew Mrs Jordan (then Dior) in 1962. In reality, Hill was in prison for much of 1962. Some "encyclopaedia" this is. VennerRoad (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2014 (UTC) Once again, Hill's book is a tissue of lies -

Requested move 6 January 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Nnadigoodluck  █ █ █  21:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

– The current title should be redirected to or the name of the disambiguation page. Also, the statistics of the last 90 days prove that "Raymond Hill (musician)" is more viewed than the rest listed at "Raymond Hill" dabpage. Also, there is more than one activist unless this "Ray Hill" can be an "(informant)" or "(far-right figure)". I couldn't propose disambiguation by year because both were, respectively, born in 1939 and 1940, i.e. one year apart from each other, and years give less clarity than descriptive terms. Back to this, apart from self-revelation as a "mole", this "Ray Hill" hasn't yet achieved anything that would make himself more historically significant than a musician, other (American) activist, or any other. –George Ho (talk) 20:33, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ray Hill → Ray Hill (British activist)
 * Ray Hill (activist) → Ray Hill (American activist)


 * Support some kind of move per nom. Definitely support moving the 1st page. If the first page is moved to "Ray Hill (____ activist)", then support a move for the 2nd page to fully disambiguate it. If the first page is moved to something like "Ray Hill (far-right figure)", then neutral on moving the 2nd page. Paintspot Infez (talk) 21:04, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support both moves, then Ray Hill (disambiguation) to Raymond Hill In ictu oculi (talk) 21:36, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support 1,126 v 853 for the American one isn't a large difference and the musician has 11,037. Redirect to Raymond Hill per WP:DABCOMBINE per IIO.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:47, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. BD2412  T 00:35, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination; Paintspot Infez; In ictu oculi; Crouch, Swale and BD2412. WP:NOPRIMARY. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:20, 7 January 2021 (UTC)