Talk:Razer Inc.

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High-Quality Picture of DeathAdder
I have a DeathAdder and I can take a high-quality picture of it and upload it if you guys want, just let me know and I'll get to it I say this since the DeathAdder is pretty notable and the other pictures are rather grainy. Meemat (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Peripherals that aren't mice
Perhaps there should be info on the peripherals that aren't mice? They have two keyboards, a headset, a sound card, and two mousing surfaces.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.126.111 (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Razer models section and table
I'll be adding details of Razers models of mouse devices soon, probably in a table. Bear with me while I refine this; it's my first wiki table. David Oliver 10:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, table in. Several details to be researched and inserted. David Oliver 12:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Boomslang model also needs splitting into different series. David Oliver 23:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

perhaps add some criticism
because newly released razer products do receive a lot of criticism (gaming forums).

also the polling rates don't seem right. i know the DB is 125hz at default.


 * I agree -- this article reads a bit like an ad. Brianmcgee17 19:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm willing to write up a few paragraphs on criticism, having used most of the Razer mice that exist.-- Pimp Uigi  22:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Swastika
What is the story behind the snake-swastika logo? --ChristianKarlsson.se 13:42, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * To me, it looks more like an Isle Of Man logo. 84.192.169.192 (talk) 10:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * A swastika is a cross which means it has 4 sides. There are probably 20+ other reasons justifying my belief that what this christian said is the quintessence of ignorance but that should suffice. Please don't spew your ignorant trolling on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inventive Exile (talk • contribs) 20:30, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Too much detail
User:Fuxmux has recently added a lot of information about what appears to be Razer's entire product range (or close to it). This really needs to be trimmed down to only the relevant information. Wikipedia is not a product guide. Only products that are important to the company's history should be described e.g its first product, significant/notable products etc. --Imroy 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This article is fundamentally a huge advertisement. I attempted to correct this, but cluebot stepped on my correction. I have appealed and hopefully common sense will prevail. As far as I can tell, the only notable thing in this article is the company's first product, a high-resolution mouse. Even this may not be enough to warrant a dedicated article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.15.212.169 (talk) 15:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

More Inaccuracy
According to the table, the corded 2000 dpi Habu is using an Avago 6030, which is an 800 cpi sensor for cordless applications (http://www.avagotech.com/products/optical_navigation_sensors/laserstream_sensors/adns-6030/). Doesn't sound right to me... I suspect the sensor is really an Avago 6010 (http://www.avagotech.com/products/optical_navigation_sensors/laserstream_sensors/adns-6010/) but I do not know that for a fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.126.127 (talk) 14:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that several of the sensor chip numbers listed are wrong. From this picture, it looks like the Copperhead uses an ADNS-6010 (not 6018).  Similarly, a Google search for "Avago 3688" turns up almost nothing, and Avago's pages   don't list any chips with that number. StevenBell (talk) 04:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I gotten a Razer Naga mouse recently. It has a infrared tracking sensor (no light when you lift up the mouse). However, the table shows Razer Naga has a 3G laser sensor. Is the table outdated? 96.251.145.221 (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Razer Snake Logo.svg
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Memory
Why the hell would a mouse ever need memory? What does it have to "remember"? It provides instantaneous feedback. Bilge [ TC] 23:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, it's not explained on the page. The idea is to store personal settings in the mouse. That way you can go from machine to machine (e.g at a LAN party or contest) with your mouse and have your settings loaded automatically by the drivers. --Imroy (talk) 01:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And that still doesn't explain anything because I still have no idea what kind of "settings" anyone could possibly want to store in a mouse. Bilge [ TC] 17:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've only ever used my Razer mouse under Linux so I can't say for sure what Razer's Windows drivers do (and my Diamondback doesn't even have this feature). I presume the "settings" are things like resolution, acceleration, and button mappings. And I seem to remember the driver also allows different "profiles" for different apps/games. Unfortunately Razer don't appear to have anything explaining what these features do on their website, even though they constantly refer to them and have gone to the trouble of registering trademarks for the fancy names. This is most frustrating. --Imroy (talk) 18:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're telling me. Bilge [ TC] 15:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

3G
What does 3G even mean? Bilge [ TC] 18:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's the third-generation (revision) of the optical laser technology implemented in the mouses Meemat (talk) 04:44, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Add Razer Mouse
Could we please add Razer Deatheradder Mac edition and specs to the list of mouses? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.112.73 (talk) 14:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Diamondback 3G, DPI vs. CPI, and laser claimed to be optical???
I wanted to let you guys know I updated the DB3G polling rate to 125

This mouse doesn't support 1000hz or 500hz polling

Why are we using the term CPI for DPI, when everyone calls it DPI except for SteelSeries??

Yes, they're the same thing. Dots per inch = counting the dots per inch. Really PPI would be the most accurate term (pixels per inch, forget pulses per inch) but no one has come up with that yet for some unknown reason...

Why are we calling laser sensors optical sensors, when we should be calling them laser sensors??

Infared = optical, optical = optical, laser = laser, MS Bluetrack = optical, Darkfield = laser--PimpUigi (talk) 05:21, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Update, I've looked over the Logitech mice articles, and all of them (that I looked at) say DPI, instead of CPI. As these are Razer mice, and on their website, it says "DPI" and everyone at Gotfrag, and RazerBlueprints refer to this as "DPI" and not "CPI" (even for SteelSeries mice,) I plan on changing it in this article.-- Pimp Uigi  06:56, 27 December 2009 (UTC) I added links into PimpUigi's signature. Cheers.  delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~   14:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Avago (by far the leading manufacturer of optical mouse sensors) uses the term CPI in their datasheets. A mouse isn't a printer or monitor: it produces "counts", not "dots", or "pixels". StevenBell (talk) 03:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Missing mice from the "Mice" section?
At least four mice are missing from the Mice section.

The Salmosa, the Naga, the Orochi, and the Abyssus.

I would add information about these mice, but I do not know the history behind these mice as I have not gotten a new gaming mouse since the Lachesis. I did return my Lachesis too in fact, and I currently use the Microsoft Habu.-- Pimp Uigi  07:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC) I added links into PimpUigi's signature. Cheers.  delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~  14:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Competition links
Be aware that has twice changed the razerzone.com links in an attempt to score points in a competition they're running. This is vandalism. If you see anyone changing those URLs to include "getimba-share-n-win", revert them immediately. And remember to put warnings on their talk page and report them (for blocking) if they persist. --Imroy (talk) 13:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Masses
Following applies to corded mice- weights are pointless without subtracting the cord weight, which is quite different for different mice. The usable weight is the body weight + a minor bit of cord, the latter of which can be taken as the same for all mice.

Criticism
The Criticism section comes across as very biased, is it worth reconsidering it to seem less negative or add some positive feedback for a more balanced view? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.189.124 (talk) 23:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The criticism section is there so the article will not read as an advertisement. There are negatives to everything. The criticism section is not bias, it's nuetral. It states what's out there. Not stating the criticism would be bias. However, on a re-read through the section, I did find a couple statements to be overly bias. I have removed them, and hope it helps the overall tone.-- Sexy Kick  01:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Lack of acceptable citations
I removed a decent chunk of the "Reception" section because it had been tagged as citation needed for almost a year, and since no one had found any acceptable citations in that time I figured it had no place on the wiki. If anyone can find acceptable citations for the removed content I'd be more than happy to welcome it back! I also added a couple tags to some sentences instead of just removing them (as I feel a large portion of the reception section is original research/unverified information, BUT this is the wiki so I'll try to give people a chance to defend the info they spent time adding to it) and I also added a couple sources for the claim about improved build quality, it still kinda reads like original research to me, but I figured I would leave it as is for now. Also it currently seems like the reception section is only about mice, we should try to add some reviews for the razer keyboards, audio devices and perhaps even the gaming laptops.

Yo Soy Dan Halen (talk) 08:57, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Seems like Synapse 2.0 is the biggest criticism I've seen out there. Forcing users of their products to maintain internet connection in order to use the product effectively when it is not technically necessary for the peripheral to function properly, should be illegal. Razer has joined EA Games in the category of gaming companies that are now forcing users to maintain internet connection and be "supervised" by them in order to use their products. Judging by almost any forum you read on the matter, it would appear unanimous that it should be possible but not required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inventive Exile (talk • contribs) 20:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Inc vs Ltd
I have noticed a change with razerzone.com first they now refer to themselves as Razer Inc. at their footer, access August 19, 2013. They also refer the themselves as that in the privacy policy seen here. But then when you go to their careers website here they are Razer USA Ltd. I am assuming it is new for them as an inc. We need some outside sources to confirm what the real status is, this could just be regions specific.Cky2250 (talk) 00:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Product list
Since every other company on wiki has their products listed it would be unfair for only select companies that you do not agree with to have their products not allowed to be listed (e.g.List of Logitech products, Logitech G27, iPhone, etc.).Cky2250 (talk) 15:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Few more with the subject of product list: Radeon HD 7000 Series, Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units, List of Take-Two Interactive video games.Cky2250 (talk) 15:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

NPOV dispute [Criticism]
The section begins with "Razer Synapse was met with negative reviews from both critics and customers.", this section goes on to talk about points in which the criticism is justified. The section infers that Synapse was only met with negative feedback. Internet connection is not needed by the software. An internet connection is only needed if the user of the peripheral wishes to customize their peripheral (lighting, DPI, polling rate, etc). Synapse can then be uninstalled and the settings will be kept (As verified by a staff member). The claim of using Synapse and thus changing them to be Synapse-dependent has no source, and a claim like that ought to have a source (especially if it is being claimed to have been by Razer). Lafar2 (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Location of a sentence
Should this sentence be placed at the beginning of the article to emphasize the fact that Razer markets its products towards gamers, instead of being put in between the gaming controller section and the timeline?: Based on information on Engadget, Razer’s products have always been aimed towards gamers. Stealth2953 (talk) 17:28, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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HQ in Singapore
As per it says dual-headquartered in San Francisco and Singapore but this was removed by. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:52, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Razer USA Ltd. and Razer Inc.
From the IPO document of Razer Inc. p.87, Razer USA Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Razer Inc. (which was incorporated in the Cayman Islands on May 18, 2012). Shall we still use Razer USA Ltd. as the subject?--218.250.35.103 (talk) 22:19, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

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Foundation year changed to 2005
I've changed the foundation year from 1998 to 2005. Per Razer's own About Us webpage, the company was indeed founded in 2005. The article does mention that it was originally a brand subsidiary in '98, but strictly speaking it is incorrect to state that the "company was founded in 1998" when that doesn't exist anymore, and when Razer's own website has a date of 2005. Cfsprt (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

"American-Singaporean"
Can someone verify if Razer is best described as "American-Singaporean"?

The Razer brand originated as a subsidiary of a US company, but technically that no longer exists, and the current Razer company was founded in 2005. The top executives of the company today also seem to be Singaporean rather than American.

They are "dual-headquartered" in US and SG, but that does really make them both American and Singaporean? IKEA is headquartered in the Netherlands, but it's otherwise Swedish with its work and development taking place in Sweden as well. Facebook's "International" HQ is in Ireland, but Facebook is American, not Irish. The Wiki articles already have this concensus that these two are Swedish and American respectively.

I'd like to hear other people's views about this matter. Cfsprt (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Use description used by reliable sources. Anything other would be original research. Pavlor (talk) 06:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)