Talk:Real World/Road Rules Challenge: The Duel II

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Can someone delete the list. That cast list is fake save for a few people.63.168.68.102 (talk) 10:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It was vandalized. I returned it back to the sourced list which was spotted and confirmed at LAX en route to Auckland.66.186.173.180 (talk) 14:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

thank you.63.168.68.102 (talk) 15:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Who deleted the order of the list? I liked it better when it was females, then males.63.168.68.102 (talk) 04:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Premiere Episode
Why is it listed as Monday April 6th? Real World/Road Rules Challenge always follow the Real World which is on Wednesdays. Multiple sources say it starts on Wednesday April 8th.

http://www.tv.com/the-real-world---road-rules-challenge/the-duel-2-premiere-episode/episode/1259425/summary.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyexpo (talk • contribs) 18:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Just as a note, I would like to thank all the users working hard and diligently in keeping spoilers off this page. Spoilers of what will happen really don't belong on Wikipedia. Sourced spoilers regarding past events maybe, but for events and things that haven't come about just don't belong on Wikipedia and I encourage everyone to keep them off. Not only doesn't it belong on the article, but it spoils the show for people as well. Thank you! Cheers dude (talk) 08:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of this article
I'm giving my reasons for removing the deletion post here just so if someone objects, we can discuss it on the user talk page. It has been proposed that this article be removed based on one of the sources being Vemo. Can we have community consensus on this topic? Personally, I feel that this article shouldn't be deleted just because its inevitable that someone will recreate it very shortly seeing as how every other season has had its own article and why put someone to all that work in the future when it's already been done here? I'm thinking a post that this article needs sources will be fine for now and it shouldn't be there too long as the show will begin early next year. That is also not to say that someone won't find a reliable source before then. Cheers! Cheers_Dude (talk) 11:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. More sources will continue to surface as time goes on. I added (or re-added) the MM agency source after the prod, since they state that their source was independent of Vemo, but confirmed by Vemo. Plastikspork (talk) 13:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I also felt that removal of this article was an insult to users like you who have done so much work in removing vandalism and stuff that just doesn't belong. Anyways, yes I believe that many more sources will surfaces as time goes on and thank you for finding the MM source. Cheers! =) Cheers_Dude (talk) 16:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Guys, while I agree with the very valid argument, the removal of the template was not the way to go about it. Seeing as though the user who posted the template there is more than likely watching the page, I doubt it highly that they will agree with the removal with 1 reference being the only thing left to back it up with. As far as the page goes, I think that for now, yes, it is an okay page, but the three of us or whoever else decides to improve this article will now have a very nice climb up the hill to get it to a place where other editors will not place new templates and then swiftly delete it. Seeing as though that time is still unknown and the article is on a life raft for right now, I suggest we make every effort possible to find reliable sources, not Vemo, or anything else like it. So with that I bid you all adieu until a later date. Cheers..--EmperorofBlackPeopleEverywhere (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why you believe my removing of the template was not the way to go about it. The template specifically read: You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason. I objected to the removal as per the reasons I even took the time to clearly explain above and in my edit summary. According to the template, had it remained there for a couple more days, the page would have been deleted. If editors are looking for reliable sources even as proven by Plastikspork already successfully finding one reliable source, there's a post at the top of the page reading that reliable sources need to be found, and more reliable sources are sure to surface as time goes on, I see nothing wrong with removal of the template to prevent the page from being deleted. Cheers! Cheers_Dude (talk) 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * First, let me say that I apologize about not responding earlier to your reply here. The issue, as I saw it was reliable sources, which to date there is still only one, Plastisk's. And I wasn't by any means trying to say that I wanted the article deleted, but IYHO, if you saw an article with one single reliable reference and then, what seems to be speculation, then come one, you would see the other side of the argument. While I'm not saying I find the vemo to be speculative or a reliable source, I think that between the three of us, alot of reliable sources can and will be found before someone notices it has one, and nominates it again. That's all I was trying to say there and if I in anyway offended you, I sincerely apologize. I'm off into internet land to see if another RS can be found, and that will be my main project for the night. CHEERS extended to Mr. Cheers!! and the "Spork"--EmperorofBlackPeopleEverywhere (talk) 23:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanx for the reply Emperor. No, I completely understand where you're coming from and would agree wholeheartedly; there's no question that the article needs more reliable sources and having only one reliable source, it's understandable why another user would find it appropriate to tag it. It certainly will be a heavy burden for the three of us, not to say that more users won't step in and help, but that's rather doubtful. As you said though, I think if the three of us find enough reliable sources in due time, everything should be fine. Given that you're starting up right now, I actually better get on it myself and find some more reliable sources. Also, much thanks for your warm civility and great attitude. It is a pleasure editing with my good man and btw :D ---> Cheers_Dude (talk) 10:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I didn't realize how difficult this would be. I have been looking for sources for a couple days now. It's really difficult to find sources about this that are reliable, also especially because it is the second Duel. I keep running into information involving the first Duel. I came across this source but I don't think it's reliable but hopefully I'm wrong. . Thoughts? Cheers_Dude (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah it is really difficult and I wouldn't use that source, because it simply reverts back to the MMAgency one. I've negated out several sites while doing searches and eventually I come up with nothing. Guess I have some FBI Investigating to do! --EmperorofPeopleEverywhere (talk) 19:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You won't find sources for this other than Vevmo, being they get their information illicitly from cast members and crew prior to its official release. MTV will announce this series toward the end of The Real World Brooklyn and at that time there will be other sources. 66.186.173.180 (talk) 00:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Eliminations
currently it has the elimination order for episodes 1-7 i believe but only three epidsodes have been shown. This has to be vandalism right?98.196.78.26 (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say so. Thanks to whoever reverted it! Plastikspork (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Intro
Can somebody please tell me the story behind the intro i'm entrire intrigued by it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brakek (talk • contribs) 22:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Eliminations 2
yet again someone has filled out the table with the "future" eliminations and eventual winner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.78.26 (talk) 04:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)