Talk:Reaper (Van Gogh series)

The Reaper or Wheat Field with Reaper or Wheat Field with Reaper and Sun
The thing is that these painting are known by many names. Every museum that exhibits them has the bad habit of giving them a novel name. While I understand the motivation to use the COMMONNAME, it is difficult to determine what the common name is until the article is written and an RM is held. The thing I like about Pickvance (1986) is that he appears to favor the earliest name of the paintings. Most of his sources are the primary source letters by Van Gogh.

Van Gogh gave these paintings names. Without clear evidence of a more common name in English, I think we should favor the translations of the original names for the paintings.

I am now itching to create this article. I would be happy to see a RM from you to settle this matter. --- C &amp; C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 21:22, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * C&c, am in the mist of a complicated (I'm not that bright) edit elsewhere, so briefly...
 * the VvG gallery calls it "Wheat Field with Reaper", which is more evocative
 * It cant be appreciated at thumbnail or even in a 200px width gallery; the figure is just too lost in all the vastness...and thus
 * would love if you took this up; have stacks and stacks of VvG books about and would be honoured to help. Ceoil  (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , well, I started at Draft:Wheat Field with Reaper and Sun. I chose the name neither of us "like". Turns out this is more complicated that we thought. BUT I am in no rush. --- C &amp; C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 23:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Great stuff. I don't edit mid week, but this is totally up my street, let me research in the next 6 six days. ps, a google books earlier today showed up a lot of "and Sun" hits. I'm guessing the title might be a section of its own, ie what series or thought process exactly does the painting belong to. Dective work! and best. Ceoil  (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , from the letters, it appears Van Gogh always called these pieces simply Reaper and did not give then distinct titles. Maybe we should call this article Reaper (Van Gogh). However, the individual pieces appear to have acquired individual titles through history. In many sources, they are Wheat Field with Reaper and Sun (F617), Wheat Fields with Reaper at Sunrise (F618), and Wheat Field Behind Saint-Paul Hospital with a Reaper (F619). I also think that The Reaper (after Millet) and Wheat Fields with Reaper as well as a few others are part of the same motif and should be in this article.--- C &amp; C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 07:34, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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