Talk:Rebecca Lilith Bathory

Autobiography
This article is illustrated with a photo -- as it happens, not the self-portrait that it first seems * -- that's by User:Lovethevoid (contributions) and is by Litchfield (see the copyright data and EXIF data respectively). This article was largely written by Lovethevoid, and therefore it was largely written by Litchfield.

* For trivia lovers: The EXIF data says that the photo was taken not with the Microcord but with a Canon EOS 5D Mark III. The photographee's finger is off the shutter button of the Microcord, which anyway has its hinged, double lens cap covering its viewing and taking lenses.

-- Hoary (talk) 13:22, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * On 20 August, User:Lovethevoid (contributions) removed the autobiography template.


 * User:Lovethevoid, if the template is misplaced, please explain this here, and get agreement for what you say. Until then (or until the article has undergone a thoroughgoing revision by one or more other, independent editors), the template remains. -- Hoary (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

-- User:Lovethevoid (talk) This is not an autobiography, I am Rebecca's assistant, can I request to have this removed '' ... added in this series of edits (10/13 Sept '14) by Lovethevoid (contributions) and 94.174.175.170 (contributions) ''


 * Thank you; I've changed the template. Please see WP:COIADVICE. -- Hoary (talk) 12:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

This article is an autobiography and needs to be deleted, Rebecca Litchfield no longer work with this name, the information is work, Rebecca Litchfield doenst exist any more and the links are wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovethevoid (talk • contribs) 11:47, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I note that http://www.rebeccabathory.com/contact says "For general or work inquiries please contact me: rebecca@rebeccalitchfield.com". -Lopifalko (talk) 15:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Before deciding what should be done, let's ascertain the facts. September 2014: User:Lovethevoid tells us that the article is not an autobiography. October 2015: User:Lovethevoid tells us that the article is an autobiography. I'm confused. Please explain. -- Hoary (talk) 12:20, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Countries
We read that Litchfield photographed in 15 countries including Belgium, Luxembourg, France, UK, Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Germany, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Croatia and Hungary for her series Orphans of Time and Soviet Ghosts.

The first four of those were never (and never had parts of themselves) in the Warsaw bloc. That leaves a maximum of eleven that (at least in part) were.

But (in the context of Soviet Ghosts) Litchfield has photographed 13 that were in the Soviet bloc.

Something's odd here. -- Hoary (talk) 01:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Series Orphans of time is not part of Soviet ghosts, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, UK are for that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovethevoid (talk • contribs) 17:05, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Trimming, sourcing, desirability
I saw Litchfield's photos at theguardian.com, looked her up, and arrived at this article. It seemed a vanity article calling for either a thoroughgoing pruning/revision or deletion.

I've started on the former course. But only started. With the exception of biographical stuff that makes no claim for achievement (parentage, birthplace, etc), everything here has to be independently sourced. If it can't be independently sourced, it should be cut. If a lot of claims remain unsourced and deletion of the article is (again) proposed, I shan't object.

Examples of sourced articles on contemporary British photographers: Maciej Dakowicz, Ken Grant. -- Hoary (talk) 01:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I've removed "Overly detailed", as the article no longer seems overly detailed. (Its other problems remain, however.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Amazon blurb, and the fiction that work by "Litchfield" was/is by "Bathory"
In this series of edits, User:Lovethevoid (contributions) does two things.

First, he or she pastes in a lot of prose copied from the Amazon.com blurb for a book to be published next year.

Secondly, he or she fiddles with the text to remove any mention of "Rebecca Litchfield" and "Rebecca Parkes", saying Bathory is famous for such and such, citing four sources. In fact, none mentions Bathory: each attributes the work to Litchfield.

I'm about to revert the edits.

I'll make one change, though. Here is the very first version of the article (by Lovethevoid). It starts:


 * Rebecca Jane Litchfield (born May 1982 as Rebecca Parkes), known professionally as Rebecca Litchfield, is a British fashion, portrait and celebrity photographer, living in London.

I'd hope that Lovethevoid had good reason for saying she was born Rebecca Parkes, but no source was given. And therefore I shan't be restoring this particular factoid. -- Hoary (talk) 08:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * No internet record of Parkes, what source do you require? Ameliajuliet (talk) 14:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ameliajuliet Just chiming in on this thread, though it's been awhile since your previous activity, to note that I've condensed and rewritten some of the text you added to this article, as it was well outside of the realm of appropriate encyclopedic text.
 * If you happen to see this, I'd be curious if you have any real life relationship with the subject of this article: no offense meant, but some of the text you added was full-on promotional in nature. Wikipedia's community aims to inform based on summarizing secondary sources, rather than advertising or philosophizing. Thanks for your time, if you are able to read this! Chiselinccc (talk) 05:49, 16 August 2023 (UTC)