Talk:Recall election

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"In 1917, North Dakota's Lynn J. Frazier was recalled over a dispute about state-owned industries." but another text said 1921. Which is it?

Also, the mention of effective recall by internal party mechanisms should probably refer to it as a form of censure rather than actual recall - since it seems not to be able to force the official to resign.


 * And there's a difference between a political party recalling its own representative or a wider citizens' movement recalling a leader, especially if the citizens are associated with political groups which are ideologically opposed to the leader. IMHO, the latter is closer to grassroots democracy... Boud 00:34, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

why nothin about india and UK
why there is no mention of the recall process that is legal and often used in India and UK. it was used in India in 1999 when the NDA government fell by just one vote. if it is restricted about north america, please specify. nids 20:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, UK, NZ and Malaysia and most other Commonwealth countries (obviously not including India if your above claim is correct or Canada) don't have recall processes. By-elections can be held in various circumstances and governments can be brought down, but they cannot be directly initiated by the ordinary citizen... Nil Einne 15:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Sources to some nations that do, or might, allow recalls

 * UK might consider it. The last link also notes that CH (Swiss) and PH (Filipinos) already do it); the last link (parliament.uk) might also be valuable as a neutral & reliable source for its content giving the common reasons that each side gives for & against Recall elections -- to "expand" this article instead of merely being a list of each nation's policies. India seems to allow recalls too (better source needed, but maybe this will pique someone's curiosity. Malaysia is considering it. NZ has elections each 3 years (often a recall isn't allowed until after 1 year, to give the pol a chance before sacking him), so NZ would nearly be ready to have another regularly-scheduled election anyway. ;-P Bolivia allows recalls. IIRC, Israel had a recall election w/in the last decade? (Don't quote me on this last nation.) 24.155.52.122 (talk) 14:50, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

California

 * In 2003, several million citizens petitioned the government for a gubernatorial recall election. Davis pointed the paradox that, if he was recalled, any candidate with a plurality vote could win the election, but he needed a majority of 50% plus one vote to stay in charge.

Is my understanding here correct that this was a dual step vote? The first vote was to decided if Davis would stay, to stay he needed 50% +1. If he failed to stay, the second vote would be for who was selected and it was not possible to select Davis? This is obviously rather different then e.g. Canada where a by-election is held and so I assume the incumbent can run again... Nil Einne 15:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to recall the President?

Actually, he only needed 50% of the vote to stay in charge; an absolute majority (50% + 1) was needed to recall him. A tie would have been insufficient to remove him from office.

There are no recall provisions for federal officers of the United States. Spock 198.164.73.25 21:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Which States can Recall?
It would be nice to note which states can perform a recall election. I'm sure people in Michigan are thinking about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.151.44 (talk) 15:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Interestingly enough, no FULL list of states are listed in the article, only a number. Granted, it is an exclusive US only thing, but as other states are mentioned, a FULL list should either be mentioned or given their own linked article. The same can be said for other nations, states or varying governments. I'd considering doing so myself, but am not conversant with the topic, hence my referral to Wikipedia for information not available.Wzrd1 (talk) 05:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Paula Flint?
On January 5, 2009, edits were made by 212.219.123.32 adding the name 'Paula Flint' to the Jeff Denham item in the list of unsuccessful US recalls. Who is this Paula Flint? Or is this a case of long-lasting vandalism? Sadharan (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see her listed as a member of the state Assembly or Senate, so I'm thinking vandalism. I'll go ahead and remove her name.Almostfm (talk) 07:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

proportional representation and recall elections?
Is there, or was there ever a system for recall under proportional representation? Or at least, a theoretical paper on such a system? I'm guessing it could be done at least for a closed-list proportional representation, by simply putting the person in question on the Nth place on a list of a party that won N representatives, and STV has an explicit quota system, so probably also possible, but would like to read an actual study of a system of that kind. 93.138.82.166 (talk) 23:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Pending
I've removed a section listing pending recalls as it's impossible to write about such ongoing, sometimes barely started, efforts in a historical and encyclopedic context. Should the cases ever come to anything, or illuminate the interactions between the various state and federal institutions that would be involved in the recall process, then of course they could be added to the article in context. Tasty monster (=TS ) 23:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Stephen harper revokes recall of members of parliament or right to call a referendum
In 2008, after the scandalous crossing of the floor of a duly elected Liberal candidate (David Emerson- Vancouver Kingsway)- a move orchestrated solely by PM Stephen Harper and a huge resultant public outcry, PM Stephen Harper unilaterally approved the repeal of any citizens' right to recall a member of Parliament, squashing thousands of demands for either a recall or a new election in the Vancouver Kingsway riding. Now, ONLY a Member of Parliament may appeal for an MP's recall.

Also, the basic right of a citizen to call for a referendum has been unilaterally repealed by PM Stephen Harper. Again, only a member of Parliament may initiate the process of calling a referendum.

Both were in response to Harper's unbelievably sneaky solicitation of a duly elected Liberal MP to cross the floor to the Conservative party with the promise of a senior posting. Mr Emerson went on to represent Canada in trade matters, including the softwood lumber conflict with the USA.

So now, only an MP can call on the policing of MP's!!!! The public right of recall-which dates back to Greek times as a cornerstone of democracy- has been repealed with the stroke of a pen from one of the worst violators of democratic process in the history of the Western World, PM Stephen Harper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.55.243 (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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What Happens After a Recall? New Election?
I don't know the answer, but I'd like to know... thanks :)   Ikiwresu (talk) 01:50, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Why does the United States get 75% of the entire article?
Countries like the United Kingdom get a paragraph, and in some cases just a sentence or two. Yet the U.S. gets 6 or 7 entire pages worth. I suggest the U.S. gets only a paragraph also and a link to a solo article on the history of their recalls if it's deemed sufficiently interesting. I don't believe all of that info needs to be on this page - one that just explains what a recall election is, and which countries do or don't have them, and how they work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:a61:500a:ac01:35b1:41e9:71a1:da68 (talk) 09:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Sources for attempted 2020 recall in Norman, OK
The source listed for the attempted recall in Norman, OK, in 2020 has seemingly nothing to do with the claims of white nationalists, local real estate or a "Jennifer Kerns". Is there any source for this? I attempted looking into it myself and could find no information that seems to substantiate these claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exposingipsisbad (talk • contribs) 21:31, September 14, 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Even apart from the sourcing, it reads pretty POV and looks like too much detail in any case. I've trimmed it. TJRC (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)