Talk:Recovering Catholic

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I noticed the "Recovering Catholic" article was flagged for speedy deletion, but I think it's a legitimate article. Needs cleanup, but it is a legitimate article.

Gimme some time to make the page not suck before you summarily nuke it from existence.


 * Try making it about religions in general rather than focusing on one denomination for some reason. Also, sign your posts. It helps to know when something was written if you're going to say "gimme some time." Klopek007 (talk) 18:07, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

This page is being attacked by Roman Catholic zealots. Stop them!
 * Do you know who? Might it be someone who, at the very least, leaves an IP address? 70.212.184.140 (talk) 04:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Meaning
I guessed it meant "I was Catholic, fell out of the religion and am now trying to get back into it"....Any one else thought it meant that? 86.45.48.69 (talk) 23:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Never thought it meant that. If anything, the term "lapsed Catholic" seems to indicate a falling out and wanting to get back in sort of vibe. You lapsed in your regular attendance but want to make up for that "error" and start doing things more seriously. "Recovering" totally refers to the negative impact that Catholicism can have on people's lives and when I use it, I really do mean it as a recovery from a brutal few years of this religion really causing havoc with my life and relationships. I think many "recovering Catholics" would state the same. Senorcthulhu (talk) 12:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Merge into Lapsed Catholic Article Discussion
This term is pretty much the same as a Lapsed Catholic so the contents of the articles should be merged at the end of this discussion if the general consensus is that this is the right thing to do. Washuchan (talk) 15:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Disagree - Not at all. A lapsed Catholic may still be a Catholic and the implication is that they could still be a Catholic. A recovering Catholic is definitely no longer a Catholic and has no intentions to ever return to being so.Josh (talk) 19:20, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Many people consider themselves to be Catholic even if they have not taken communion for a long time, they may even see their faith as a positive force in their lives, but are not "practicing" Catholics. Recovering Catholics are not Catholic anymore and consider their former faith to be a source of embarrassment, but one so ingrained they may still occasionally find themselves crossing themselves or giving certain answers to certain phrases.  But there is no doubt, they are not Catholic anymore, whereas lapsed Catholics are.NightBear (talk) 06:45, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree with all the above points. To merge these two articles would not only cause confusion but also be a bit of a kick in the teeth to both the lapsed camp and the recovering camp. Even though this is just anecdotal evidence, I think both sides would be pretty hacked off to be classed as the same as each other. I certainly would be horrified to be classed as a lapsed Catholic when I definitely consider myself to be "recovering". Seeing as Catholicism can have very powerful negative effects on people's lives (as well as positive ones for those still practising of course), I think we should tread carefully here. Senorcthulhu (talk) 12:17, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Disagree with merger. Will rm tag which has been there for 3 or 4 months since March. Student7 (talk) 16:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)