Talk:Recuerdos de la Alhambra

A great part of this page is a copy from the biography of Francisco Tárrega, does that really belong here in a description of one of his songs?Hauberg 20:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Whether or not it does, this piece is not a song. A song is sung. TheScotch (talk) 12:42, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Counter melody?
Re: "The thumb plays a counter-melody on the bass between melodic attacks. Many who have heard the piece but not seen it performed mistake it for a duet."

Not really. There is a little counter-melody, or intimation of counter-melody, but basically the thumb is simply playing a simple arpeggio pattern. And it's not "between melodic attacks". It's simultaneously with the melody. (It's fair to say simultaneously even though technically no two notes strike at the same time until the final chord because few if any melody notes in the entire piece last less than a quarter-note and the notes of the arpeggios are all eighths. None of the individual 32nds in the tremolo is itself a melody note.) TheScotch (talk) 12:50, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Title
Re: "Recuerdos de la Alhambra shares a title with the Spanish language translation of Washington Irving's 1832 book, Tales of the Alhambra, written during the author's four-year stay in Spain."

That sounds to me an awful lot like saying recuerdos is Spanish for tales, whereas, in fact, it means memories or souvenirs or keepsakes. None of these are anything close to the English tales. TheScotch (talk) 13:26, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

It is played too fast
It is not playable. Although it's possible to play triplets that fast or even faster by pulling the ring, middle and index finger up in a shredding movement, it's not possible to extend these trioles to quartoles by picking with the thumb at the same pace. The movement of the thumb will always take longer. Every fourth bar will be played more slowly than the rest. Just don't care about the timing, play it as sloppy as possible and then speed it up with 45/33. There's a name for intentional chaotic timing, i've forgot it. I know it by rote and i'm sure it's not playable. Just like you cannot nod with your head 20 times in a second. It's not the same thing if you lack practice or if you just aren't able to do something because of restrictions of human beings ( or because you're mongoloid or something). Amber and records. Think about Bernstein, Bern, §1905 BGB, Ampère, magnetic mass storage, Hartz IV, retina damage and electrons instead. I could swear burnt shellac smells like burnt cassette tapes. Recuerdos=records and ambra=plastic? They actually did a 3:2-pulldown with Apetite For Destruction. There's the bet what's the real art and cleverness behind it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:66:EB5C:FC00:5C76:372A:9DC6:78D4 (talk) 20:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)


 * In the first place, it's not "just like [sic] you cannot...."; it's just AS you cannot. Like is an adjective, not an adverb. In the second place, this page is for discussing proposed changes to the article, not randomly and incoherently ranting. In the third place, the piece is indeed eminently playable. I play it myself--up to tempo. TheScotch (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)