Talk:Red-capped parrot

Kuhl's spurious descriptor
As noted in the article, Kuhl used a juvenile specimen for the first description, Psittacus spurius. I was puzzled by a couple of things, but don't have access to HANZAB and had to dig around. The author's article notes he was in Java at about the time of publication, and I had the notion this may have put the bird in his hand … apparently not. The article's citation for Kuhl notes this specimen was at the Paris museum. There is some discussion, and a ream of synonyms, in G.M. Mathews (Birds of Australia, 1912. p. 388) that states this specimen was 'procured' by Peron (Baudin expedition) and therefore the type location was 'King George Sound' (Albany).

I can add this to the article, without using the more recent authority (HANZAB), though I am still wondering if there is a missing detail about the specific epithet. The article says Kuhl uses spurius to mean illegitimate because the juveniles don't resemble the adults: how did he know that? — cygnis insignis 20:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I can look at HANZAB on Wednesday or Friday. Old describers often don't give a reason for a species name, and it is up to later people to assume what they meant. Sometimes it is obvious and sometimes much less so. Intriguing question....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice one Cas, hope all is well with you :-)
 * I didn't need to see the page history to recognise one of your rapid and substantial contributions, cheers for giving me a usable article to add a couple of notes to as I am sailing by. Authors revealing their inspiration for the names they print is a rare joy, like the old WA handbook I bought for a couple of dollars and plunder for nuggets of incidental facts. Keep doing what you do, and give this article some more attention when the volume falls into your hands again. — cygnis insignis 13:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok got the HANZAB stuff today. Can you split the Morcombe ref into cited text and sfn format like I have done with Higgins? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Djalyup! It's fun and helpful to watch you at work Cas. The Morcombe refs are in that form now, applying it helped in restoring an edit I stuffed up. I had to patch up some other problems I introduced, think most details are in the summary, and will try to tighten up the distribution and habitat. Who the Kuhl was talking to may turn up, perhaps an earlier report or detail with his specimen. I'll drop some notes with historical stuff later this week, see if they can be incorporated, the field notes of F. Lawson Whitlock is one idea. In the mean time, have a look at John T. Cockerell for an outlying record on the species. Cheers, cygnis insignis 16:36, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

GA
Love this article, this looks like GA already.
 * Yup - that's what we're working towards....just a couple of bits and pieces....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:20, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * working it cost a huge time, I've seen this and Blue-footed booby almost GA, nice work Casliber.

Bad hat
The hatnote is misleading, it implies the user made some kind of mistake, but both parrots are known as red-capped parrot. You should have something like "this is about an Australian parrot. For the South American one see blah". Hat Hater (talk) 19:43, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ok, fair point. done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC)