Talk:Red-throated loon

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My inclination would be to make the derivation the second sentence, or perhaps dagger the first sentence leading to the alternative names and derivation at the end. This bit could perhaps go below  or be small to distinguish it from the ornithogical bit. I think we are still feeling our way with a lot of the presentational bits jimfbleak 07:59, 19 April 2003 (UTC)

What's the source for RTD being able to take off from land - sounds improbable to me jimfbleak 05:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I did not write it, but I think it is true. There are some sources in the internet (for example: here [or here]).Weird Bird 09:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think this article is within striking distance of GA, close enough for issue arising to be fixed wthin a day or twwo - thus Meegs, go and nominate :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * About time! :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Towards FA....
OK, what do we feel needs doing about getting this one over at FAC? Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have done alt text for images. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It needs a map, and imho "similar species" should be integrated with "description". I've got some good sources, so I'll read through in the next few days  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've got a "to do" list at the top of the page; that (and the remaining bits from Sasata's GA review) is probably all stuff that should be added. I've been working my way through the lists in the past week, and will continue to do so.  Any volunteers of help happily accepted! MeegsC | Talk 11:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm quite happy to help, anything specific I could do?  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  12:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How are you at map making? MeegsC | Talk 14:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaaargh!?*! - I should have qualified my offer. Having said that, I've just bought PagePlus, so I'll see what I can do.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have a preferred source map? If so, could you email it to me, otherwise I'll use Harrison, which isn't brilliant but it's the only global map I have.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have access to HBW? The map's a bit small, but looks reasonable... MeegsC | Talk 17:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have a map by tomorrow for your comments  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  18:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I've added a map, please have no qualms about removing or amending as you see fit. I decided against adding the wintering range; some sources don't give it, and others are wildly contradictory or misleading (i.e. wintering inland over the southern half of Europe). It should be easy enough for you to either shade the winter range or add a line for the southern limit in winter if you think it is necessary  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jim! MeegsC | Talk 11:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Does the recent flurry of activity mean this is heading to the snake pit soon...? :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:41, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hopefully! I've got several weeks of fieldwork coming up though, so it's gonna be a slow process... MeegsC | Talk 15:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Cute shetlands rhyme
This ref:



as well as having the shetlands and faroese material, also has a shetland rhyme:

"If the rain göse flees to da hill, Ye can gang to da heof when ye will; But when shö gangs to da sea, Ye maun draw yir boats an flie"

I guess it might be out of copyright... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Old image and text
In 1750, the plumage variation was obviously a source of confusion. See http://books.google.com/books?id=GmsFAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA1-PA146 Shyamal (talk) 13:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Except that his description of a "Speckled Loon" (on page 148) is a rather good description of a Pacific Loon! MeegsC | Talk 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Refs
Cas cleared up a lot of stuff, but I added two full stops and several dates, Cas might not have been able to access some of those. Is it OK to parenthesise years in full refs but not short form? Personally, I'd parenthesise the lot. Jessup ref includes day of publication as well as month & year. I think that's OTT.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  15:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

FAC redux
O-kay and  this one is more yours than mine - I just found a cool thesis and have added some stuff, which rounds out the evolution material quite well. You guys wanna have a look at the thesis and co-nominate (with each other, not me) or something? Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs)
 * Thanks Cas Liber, I'm going away for a week from tomorrow, so I'll leave this with . I think this article should go to FAC; I can't see anything missing, but it's very much MeegsC's project, with only minor input from me, so I'm happy that it should be her solo nom. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:33, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok we'll wait for MeegsC. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:15, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just about to head off to Guyana for a month, but I can put it up before I go and hope I have at least intermittent internet (always a bit of a gamble in Guyana, particularly as I'll be in the bush down-country for most of it). Any nitpicks before I post it? MeegsC (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Recently hatched?
The caption of the top photo (in the infobox) describes the check depicted as "recently hatched". That chick is much too large to be recently hatched; other photos in the article show noticeably smaller chicks, and the size of the eggs confirms this. Suggest re-captioning to drop the modifier. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Good point, and well made. I've changed it. MeegsC (talk) 17:41, 29 July 2019 (UTC)