Talk:Red Alert

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This is my first attempt at a disambiguation page. I hope I did it right... Kevyn 22:03, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * It looks great. Acegikmo1 22:05, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Reordered links
Just reordered the links, though I'm sure if someone really wants Star Trek to be top of the list they'll change it back. I think the current order makes more sense, even if it's not in order of popularity... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.86.32.79 (talk • contribs).


 * Well, I don't see any obvious "sort key" that we should choose here, so any ordering is about the same to me as any other ordering. I suppose you could use the Google test, but in that case, Star Trek might well win. ;-)
 * Atlant 16:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Deleted paragraph re origin of term
In an edit dated 12 May 2010, User:Boleyn3 deleted information from the beginning of the article, citing MOS:DAB.

The deleted information was:


 * A red alert is the highest level of threat in many official warning systems, and originated with systems to indicate emergencies on board military ships. It refers to the use of flashing red lights to indicate danger. One reason for the use of the colour red is that the human eye can more easily adapt to darkness from red light than from any other colour, so there is an advantage to using red in the event that all lights are extinguished as a result of the emergency.

Plus a corresponding citation:


 * http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/observing-astronomy/ep-85-detectors/

Which refers to the following segment from the cited podcast transcript:


 * Pamela: This is the same reason that brake lights on the backs of cars are red. It's the same reason that under war conditions ships go to red alert and everything goes to red, and you can dark adapt so if something bad happens and all the lights go out, you can still see.


 * Fraser: I didn't know that. That's where red alert comes from.


 * Pamela: Right, that's where red alert comes from. It's a way of working to protect your night vision; protect your low light vision. Once you get that low light vision all set up and you're ready to go, the human eye has an amazing dynamic range.

Now, I believe that this information is unquestionably suitable for Wikipedia, and that any reader looking up "red alert" deserves be able to find information about the origin and history of the term. What is debatable is where that information should go, and as I see it there are three options:


 * Reinstate the information in the present article, overruling MOS:DAB in this case.
 * Change red alert (with lower-case a) so that it no longer redirects to Red Alert (with upper-case A) and place information about the history of red alerts in general in the former article. Mark that article as a stub and link to it from the present article.
 * Place the information in some other existing article, and link to it from the present article.

Personally, I advocate the second solution above. The first solution was until recently the status quo, and the third solution could easily lead to the information being difficult to find, or deleted without anyone noticing. 125.168.127.32 (talk) 16:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 15 May 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. Possible retargeting of Red alert can be done boldly or with discussion at Talk:Red alert. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Red Alert → Red alert – WP:NCCAPS. Not a proper noun. oknazevad (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 18:07, 15 May 2019 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 18:07, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK
 * Every single link on this disambiguation page is to a proper noun. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK


 * Oppose. As Ahecht points out, all of the entries on this disambig page are to proper nouns with "Alert" capitalized. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:40, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Good faith request, but per WP:DABNAME we tend to name disambiguation pages based on the "spelling that reflects the majority of items on the page". -- Netoholic @ 23:13, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per above and common name. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose and redirect Red alert to Alert state instead as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose redirect Red alert to Alert state instead as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, and close. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:37, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that's an elegant solution, so long as the alert state article includes a hatnote saying "red alert" redirects there and pointing to this disambiguation page. oknazevad (talk) 14:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose proposal, and oppose redirecting Red Alert to alert state due to lack of evidence that the latter is the primary encyclopedic meaning of the former. There is no problem with the current arrangement.  —  AjaxSmack  00:33, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.