Talk:Red Right Return

Seamanship ref
Where to start? It's discouraging that it took 30-some edits and the first couple of months for replacement of the 1st revision's nonsense URL. And likewise that it may be more than 17 months since that ref went 404. But really those are beside the point, since the 'graph in question is both a copy vio and includes an inaccurate factual statement relying on a source unqualified to verify that fact. (There was no need to come so close to the copyright-protected wording: i wouldn't even dignify the excision of
 * an old nautical term “red right returning”. It’s really

with the term "paraphrase".)  In fact, it's also reckless to keep the word "always", without the quotation marks that would have admitted to the difference between a fact and something a musician said: he cannot be expected, as sea captains and careful editors are, to understand about the IALA sea mark regions.   Perhaps worst, i'm not sure whether to call that choice obtuse or trivia-obsessed: in context, the interviewee's 'graph clearly wanted to emphasize pride in the creative process, not admit (as our article's 'graph insinuates) that the sailing lore is window dressing. --Jerzy•t 09:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)