Talk:Red Rum

Comment
There was an earlier form of this article that did not suffer from copyright violations. I have recreated the article using that source and placed it at Red Rum/Temp. --User:rin 17:19, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Odds
Does anyone know what -1 1977: 9-1 Ceterusparibus 22:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Shining

 * Is "red rum" in the movie a reference to the horse? I think it's murder backwards, and nothing horsey at all. Any one got a reference to support either way? Paddy 08:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is murder backwards. I the opposite thing but, from "Red Rum Remains the People's Champion," The Dailiy Telegraph "Red Rum was so named when his original owner took the last three letters from the names of his dam and sire - Ma red and Quo rum - to invent the most famous moniker in Grand National history." 06:42, 19 September 2008‎ User:Timtak
 * I heard on UK television that he was named "murder" reversed because when young he was "absolute murder" (= British slang for "very difficult") to handle. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Trivia
Lee Mack was Red Rum's stableboy in the 80's - is that worth noting as trivia? --172.212.243.142 09:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

More info
This needs to put in: Red Rum was flat bred, he won (dead headed) in a 5f flat race at LIVERPOOL at 2 y.o. (where he would go back to to become a legend). At one time ridden by the great Lester Piggott, yet he went on to win National Hunt racing's longest race 3 times and 2nd twice!!! - Just mentioning, in that 2 y.o. race he dead headed with a filly called Curlicue. Both Red Rum and Curlicue were bred by Martyn McEnery (co. Kilkenny) and both went to the sales together to be sold to England, funny!! - Culnacréann  19:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC) [[Media:Insert non-formatted text here]]

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he was the best

His death

 * I heard on television once that he was found in his stable collapsed and too weak to stand; a vet was called and said that his heart was giving out, so the vet had to put him down. Has anyone got a reference to this? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:56, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Lee Mack again
Currently we have


 * "In his early career he was once ridden by Lester Piggott, and comedian Lee Mack, then a stable boy who had his first riding lesson on Red Rum."

Whose early career? The horse's? Piggott's?  Lee Mack's?  --Several Pending (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


 * work better as 2 short sentences.  Tigerboy1966  09:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I have to wonder why is this listed under Early Life? It happened several years after Red Rum retired. On Desert Island Discs Mack specified that he rode Red Rum at the age of 16, which would have been in 1984 at the earliest, although given other details in his story it was more likely 1985. 67.180.80.11 (talk) 12:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)