Talk:Red Shift (novel)

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This article badly needs rewriting - it reads like a review more than anything else. User:Belzub
 * Duly taken care of. Djdaedalus 19:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice peice of work just made couple of minor tweeks. :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  16:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Do you think it's ready for B-class ? Djdaedalus 17:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Names of the Celtic tribes - "Cats" and "Mothers."
I just happened to read this article having been a fan of the book since watching the BBC dramatisation.

While I agree the "Cheshire Cat" allusion fits, and is a good pun, I wonder is Garner also referencing two actual Celtic tribal names from the region - the Catuvellauni and Brigantes?

Granted the Catuvellauni were based around Hertfordshire, so it might be stretching it.

The Brigantes were the tribe of the Mother Goddess Brigantia, so in common speech they might easily have been nick-named "the Mothers." Ne?

Just a thought.

I would agree with the derivation of the "Mothers" being from the Brigantes. Of course the other tribe in the area of modern Cheshire would have been the Cornovii, their name could be derived from a word meaning "horn," however, Garner may have worked from these people being obsessed with corn and millstones in his book and made a punning reference to the 'corn' of Cornovii and the fact that in "The Golden Bough" a manifestation of the "Corn-spirit" takes the form of a cat.Urselius (talk) 14:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The cipher on the last two pages
Someone has suggested that the translation of the cipher might constitute "original research". Is this really justified? The ciphertext is in the published book. It is simple to apply the key (TOMSACOLD) and retrive the plaintext message; anyone can verify that this works. It is not a matter of speculation or opinion, DaveBerry (talk) 10:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

the last two pages are written in code the code in which they are written is mentioned earlier in the book. i no longer obtain a copy of the book but shortly after i read it i learnt the code. to find it out search lewis carroll —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.164.118 (talk) 07:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Now referenced —  the work hasn't been out very long.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 22:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

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"an Englishman's perception of Vietnam-era military jargon"???
Is "Vietnam-era" a sensible phrase to use, given that it's not in widespread use in the UK given Britain's non-participation? Why not simply "1970s"? 86.143.52.241 01:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

An excerpt of a review printed on the back of the original British paperback - the one pictured in the main article - mentioned that the Roman soldiers talked like GIs in Vietnam. Britain didn't participate, but it was widely covered at the time, in the years Garner was writing Red Shift. The fact that Garner allowed the quote on the book's cover suggests that the reviewer was correct. Garner was making an analogy between the Roman occupation of Britain and America's involvement in Vietnam. RossyG 12:46, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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Is this true?
Can someone confirm that the following is true?
 * Tom and Jan agree each to look at the star Delta Orionis, also called Mintaka, every night at 10 p.m. This is so that they can feel together even when apart.  When inciting Macey to fight, Logan makes him focus on Mintaka.

This seems like speculation to me, but I could be wrong. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 06:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what this question means. Everything referred to in the question is right there in the text, so ... yes, it's true.

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Error
"Blue, silver and red are the colours Tom sees as the train pulls out of Crewe, taking Jan away from him. At the time they were the standard livery colours for British Rail Inter-City trains." This is not correct. At the time the book was written BR coaches were painted blue & grey. Earl Marischal (talk) 19:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)