Talk:Red Wolf (bull)

Date of Death
This URL I found, http://8secaddiction.proboards.com/thread/1856/red-wolf, is a forum where someone copied in an entire PBR article that gives the date of Red Wolf's death. I doubt someone would go to the trouble of making this up. I have used this as a temporary citation to support the date of death. However, I already made attempts to find the article. The article was written when the website for the PBR was www.pbrnow.com. The current website is www.pbr.com. The old website was added to the Internet Archive many times. I tried searching the Wayback Machine several times with no success but I will keep on trying. Information is below in case anyone else wants to try. I find the site in the archive, but it only loads partially with errors. I have loaded this website in the past though, so I know it's possible.

Wayback Machine site is: https://archive.org/web/

PBR was still located in COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. at the time. Now they are in Pueblo, Colorado.

Article Date - December 31, 2006

Article Title = The Professional Bull Riders Inc. (PBR) mourns the passing of Herrington Cattle Company's great Red Wolf.

dawnleelynn (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I have finally located a copy of the article in the Wayback Machine of the PBR's old website www.pbrnow.com that contains this article. Definitely more reliable than a blog. It is:

https://web.archive.org/web/20100211003655/http://pbrnow.com/release/?id=3130

I have replaced it in the article.

dawnleelynn (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (The only thing I copied as a direct source was quotes from bull riders in the article. I may have used similar words here and there. You cannot copyright statistics like bull scores and such. I always paraphrase and use my own words in my articles. I am very aware of this and take extra care, reviewing the wording over and over again. Dawn) -- dawnleelynn (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Quotations are okay within reason. Your inclusion of so many quotes was excessive, so much so as to be a copyright violation . Please don't do this any more. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC) Amended: It's a violation of our non-free content policy, but not a copyright violation. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Diannaa, for considering the intent in this matter. There was no wrongful intent. In the future, I will be more prudent in the use of quotes in articles. I will correct this article as soon as possible, hopefully by the end of this evening. And my other articles as well. Thanks again, dawnleelynn (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2017 (UTC)


 * , I’ve taken a whack at the article, restoring some quotes in shorter format and trying to summarize other quotations to  convey the gist of what needed to be said.  I hope I have found a happy medium between explaining why this animal was unique and notable without over-long quotations.   Montanabw (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Edit - (arranging order of outs)
You gave no source for your rearrangement of the outs for Nunnemaker and Hesseman. However, there are two sources that support the order that the outs were in the article as it stood before your edit. See and  which are in the article. Can you provide a source for your edit that shows the round numbers you claim? I want the article to be right. And even if you are right, we still need to have source to back it up. That's what an encyclopedia is all about. Thanks! Also, thanks for correcting the PBR Award article where I typed Promised Land one time instead of Promise Land. I know it's just a typo but it's important. dawnleelynn(talk) 06:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)