Talk:Red letter edition

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Some thoughts...

A quick note that there appears to be a music group called Red Letter Edition would be nice. Actually, looks like another Red Letter Edition A Christian Alternative Rock Ministry

A more complete history would be nice. I found info that self-identifies as an unreliable source: HISTORY OF THE RED LETTER EDITION

There is a wikipedia entry for Red-Letter Christian, need a link to that.

An interesting aspect of the Red Letter Editions that I've noticed is that it is up to the interpertter to determine where the words of Jesus start and stop. A good example is John 3. Some would close the quote after v 15, the NIV and most modern versions close the quote after v. 21 with a note regarding the question (thereby putting the famous John 3:16 in Jesus mouth). Someone might say after v. 3:16. I think a strong argument could be made that at least v. 19 and on sounds more like something John would say than Jesus. An odd thing: the NIV closes it at v.21, but the TNIV closes the quote at v. 15. At least one Bible I've seen have the red letters not matching the quote marks. Some comment on this would fill this out a bit.

bobskiwobski (talk) 18:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Changed the external link to a bible site that shows Jesus' speech in red. JohnG62 (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Links to online red bibles
We need some links to online red letter bibles. Faro0485 (talk) 07:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * CrossWire Bible study programs support red letter display for 'Words of Christ' (WoC), with some front-end applications offering it as a view setting that can be toggled on/off. DFH (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Biography of Louis Klopsch
Now that I've added a bibliography section, it should be easier for someone to trace the quotation for which a citation is required. DFH (talk) 18:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Criticism lacking
The article lacks any awareness of criticism of red letter edition Bibles. Some discussion and reference should be added regarding critical comments by theologians who see red letter editions as lacking any theological justification and being motivated by publishing industry desire for profits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.129.33.216 (talk) 23:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Klopsch title page and the use of italics
The image of the Klopsch title page was scanned by one of my colleagues in the CrossWire Bible Society. I am currently working with him on the KJV project at CrossWire. We were both surprised that the first such red letter edition also used italics, and I thought this was something that is notable enough to add to the main page. DFH (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The image of the title page was scanned from "Antique Holy Bible KJV Louis Klopsch Red Letter Edition 1901" purchased via eBay. This item (now closed) describes it. . DFH (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

QUESTION
I've been away from this a while, but I noticed some changes that don't make this subject clearer, namely the use of Dominical words (which is explained, but is a uncommon term), and that the words are printed rubricated (also, explained, but again, an uncommon term). Further, under "Qualifications", the article lists Sacred Scriptures, which is not very specific at all. Admittedly, the initial "original text" was not very clear either -- probably should have been "original languages" or something.

The "rubrication" and "dominical" is throughout the article now, and in my opinion make it less readable. Plus, the assertion that "this is a modern practice derived from .. mediaeval striptoria" does not fit, in my opinion, with the referenced work describing why this was first done. I'm curious if others have thoughts on th is. bobskiwobski (talk) 00:37, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Be WP:BOLD and make the changes. If you want to see who implemented them, the history will show that as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I removed all this. Veverve (talk) 17:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)