Talk:Red team

Devil's advocate
I was surprised to see no mention of the devil's advocate, who performed a similar "contrary" or "opponent" function for many centuries before red teams were a thing. Is the omission deliberate? For example, it is where the introduction to Micah Zenko's book starts. Theramin (talk) 23:55, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there. I wouldn't object if someone wanted to work devil's advocate into the history section. Zenko page 10 does say The office of the Devil’s Advocate was the first established and routine use of “red teaming.” I'm not sure how much I agree with this idea of inventing the concept of red teaming in the 1900s, then going back in history and labeling things as red teaming though. That's what this quote does and that seems like a weak way to connect things. Red team to me has very specific and modern meanings. Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 01:29, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Partisan source
The United States Transportation Security Administration has used red teaming in the past. An analysis of some red team operations discovered that undercover agents were able to fool Transportation Security Officers and bring weapons, drugs, or explosives through security at some major airports at least 70% of the time in 2017, and 95% of the time in 2015.

The Daily Signal is a highly partisan, dubiously reliable source. Is it needed, or can the statement be sourced entirely to the L.A. Times? If not, is there some other source that could be used instead? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:48, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * . Thanks for spotting that. – Novem Linguae (talk) 05:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia feedback
Copying here so I don't forget. Some ideas on how to further improve the article: work in more of the Further reading sources, and lower the HOW TO feeling of the Infiltration section. And there may still be a few MOS:BADITALICS here and there. – Novem Linguae (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Added Bogdan Dzakovic - FAA whistleblower and member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
I added:
 * Bogdan Dzakovic - FAA whistleblower and member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

Ironcurtain2 (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)