Talk:Relation

The significance of relation goes all the way back to the middle ages. Medieval Theories of Relations:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/relations-medieval/

As one can see, it was a discourse that went on for centuries. To summarize, there are two dynamics of relations. They called them reducible and non-reducible types. Reducible types are relatively more or relatively less. Non-reducible types are exclusively about the connection. What is not clear is the term used that composes a relation. Relations are never composed of a single entity. It is my opinion that this entity should be called a subject. Other terms such as object or unit don't work with people. So if it is subjects that compose a relation, and a relation can itself be a subject, a closed system exists. --JHuber 18:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Philosophical Relation
We really need an article on philosophical relation. As far as I can tell, none exists. Drunken Pirate 03:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps Relation of Ideas is close enough? Drunken Pirate 03:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Broad-concept article?
IMO it must be turned into CONCEPTDAB Staszek Lem (talk) 23:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like it already exists. I agree and have made page move requests below. —Ost (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 12 April 2018

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 18:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

– Relation (history of concept) appears to be the broad-concept article for this topic, and it should be the primary. Ost (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Relation → Relation (disambiguation)
 * Relation (history of concept) → Relation
 * Oppose. No clear primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. If Relation (history of concept) should be moved, this should be to Relation (philosophy). The fact that some links in the dab page may be examples for the philosophical concept does not means there are really instances of this concept. For example International relations or Relation (mathematics) have nothing to do with philosophy, and philosophy does not help understanding these topics. D.Lazard (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


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I forgot about this request and should have responded, but I disagree that relation (philosophy) is the same as relation (history of concept); it's more a portion of that history, as are international relations, relation (mathematics), and relation (database). The latter two concepts are already in the article, and were before the nomination. I wasn't proposing to lose the navigational aid, but rather just moving that aid to a page containing "disambiguation" in the title. —Ost (talk) 13:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Test
A new WP:User "Logicalperson12" posted the following:
 * Origin of the word relationship:The word “relationship” first appeared in 1744, but was not applied “specifically of romantic or sexual relationships” until 1944.
 * Before plane and cars and all other technology existed we were only able to have relation with other country true sailing ship thus the name relationship.

The speculations were removed as unsuitable, and note taken that it was a probe to see if this page is watched. — Rgdboer (talk) 02:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

"Relation (disamiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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