Talk:Relation (philosophy)/GA1

GA Review
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Nominator: 12:23, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 06:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi I'll review this. Sorry about the eight month long wait you've had to undergo. I'll begin soon. 750h+ 06:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for picking up this review! This was a long wait indeed. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

1. Well-written

 * lead
 * realists, relations have mind-independent existence. add the article "a" before "mind-independent
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * definition and features
 * the first-born sibling stands in the relation of being older to their other siblings. change "to" to "than".
 * I added the "than" but kept the "to" (the being-older-than relation from first-born to the siblings)
 * two distinct relations instead of seeing them as one and the same remove "one and"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Determinable relations are not clearly specified remove "clearly"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * types
 * to the relata and it is impossible for the two relata to exist without ==> "and the two relata cannot exist without"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Two statements are contraries if it is not possible that both are true but it is possible that both are false I think is unnecessarily wordy
 * I found a simplier formulation. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * A special case of non-symmetric relations are asymmetric relations "are" ==> "is"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * An example is the relation being a parent of: I don't think "of" is needed
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * ontological status
 * The location problem consists in the question of where relations are located. "in" ==> "of"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * A closely connected issue concerns the manner in which relations depend "the matter in which" ==> how
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * that they are located in the object which bears them and on which they depend} change the second "which" to "that"
 * I found a simpler formulation. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * He claims that in order to be related to them "in order to" ==> "to"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Objections to eliminativism in general are often based on the idea remove "in general"; "often" already explains that
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * history
 * to reconceptualize the nature of relations and the need of relations to describe reality on its most basic level. "need of relations" ==> "need for relations"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The view that view that relations are reducible The way this sentence is phrased is a bit confusing
 * I hope the new version is clearer. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * validity of reasoning in regard to relations ==> "validity of reasoning regarding relations"
 * Done. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

2. Verifiable with no original research

 * Sources, as always, look good, with most being books and dictionaries. Spot check performed on 3, 14, 51, 88, 138 and 140. Earwig finds a violation unlikely, with a 27.5% similarity to a SEP source. Source review and spot check pass. 750h+ 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

3. Broad

 * I know nothing about this topic so I cannot judge, but because of the articles you've written Phlsph, I'll pass this nonetheless. 750h+ 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

4. Neutral

 * Understandable to a good audience, with some facilitative examples. No. 1 also helped. Pass. 750h+ 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

5. Stable

 * Hasn't been edited in a while, so I doubt we're going to see a significant amount of editing soon. Pass. 750h+ 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

6. Illustrated
I really appreciate you taking care of this long overdue review and providing all the actionable suggestions. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Nine appropriately licensed images in the article, each of which have WP:ALT text and are well-positioned. Pass. 750h+ 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * No problem Phlsph! Hope you don’t mind waiting a few hours before i promote this. 750h+ 19:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)