Talk:Religious discrimination/Archive 1

women votingrights
"Under pressure from the Roman Catholic church, the government of Quebec withheld the vote from women until the mid 1940s." how is this an example of religious discrimination? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.29.210.205 (talk) 05:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

This article needs to be cleaned up, someone has copied and pasted a section on SDA's and Catholics repeatedly and screwed it up.

Methodology Question
What is it called when you go to law enforcement, or prison administration, and they do nothing? That "they" discriminate by method of inaction? 76.171.209.137 (talk) 23:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC) 2009-05-02 T16:50 Z-7

Other
Not sure how to do this, but the link for religious freedom with raptors needs to be updated as they recently moved. new site is at http://religiousfreedomwithraptors.110mb.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.14.52 (talk) 12:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Religionism is not Religious Discrimination
Links to Religionism lead to this page on Religious Discrimination. e.g. from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

How can this be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.224.17 (talk) 10:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed PeRshGo (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

excommunication as abuse of power
A number of religions practice excommunication, which can be extremely destructive or even lethal, and some of them invoke it even when the person has not religiously dedicated himself to that church, or has withdrawn from it specifying that no excommunication should be imposed. This should be discussed by others as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyntheticET (talk • contribs) 19:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Religious discrimination is not only by minorities
The article says that religious discrimination is by majorities, but that is not always the case. Sometimes a strong minority voice can result in discriminating against majorities. For example, if the Minnesota Education Association, at their annual meeting, sets aside a prayer room for Muslims but not for other religious groups, that would be religious discrimination against a majority. There must be a number of cases of strong minority groups discriminating against majorities. Either way, it is religious discrimination.Pete unseth (talk) 16:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

"Vampires laws"?
I notice a reference to "Vampires laws". I suspect this is vandalism. If it is correct, please explain.Pete unseth (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

What about discrimination by religions?
'Religious discrimination' could mean two things: discrimination against religious people, or discrimination by religious people. This article focuses on the former; do we have anything about the latter? I only ask because I just discovered that in the US, apparently, religious organisations are allowed to discriminate in their hiring policies in a way secular organisations are not: That seems worth mentioning somewhere. Robofish (talk) 16:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, where is an article which covers this subject? Especially in the United States, atheists are discriminated against, and conservative Christians and groups discriminate against those who don't believe exactly as they do. Kim Davis (county clerk) is the latest example. If we don't have an article about this type of thing, we need one. Please ping me. -- BullRangifer (talk) 07:34, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I am not sure which of the two categories were referred to by "this type of thing". Many people feel that their own particular affinity is being discriminated against. I have my own opinions on which groups discriminate more and which groups are discriminated against more. I think all will agree that under the flag of communism, atheists have been and still are major discriminators against the religious. Pete unseth (talk) 18:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * "This type of thing" refers to this thread's topic. We already have article(s) about discrimination against religion and religious people. We need an article covering discrimination by religious people. I mentioned Kim Davis because of her special status: Attorney and author Roberta Kaplan described Davis as: "the clearest example of someone who wants to use a religious liberty argument to discriminate." This is not about which form of discrimination happens most or is the worst, but about the fact that both forms exist, yet only one is covered here. That's not right. -- BullRangifer (talk) 03:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Israel
Why Doesnt have a whole section for Israel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.137.146.156 (talk) 01:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that makes sense to add Israel, however the entire Middle East section could be improved. Jooojay (talk) 01:28, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

India
The article currently says there is no religious discrimnation in India. Some non-Hindus would disagree. Some documentation should be cited for any changes.Pete unseth (talk) 02:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Something is wrong with this article
Badly wrong. Its not a thing. That is why in our article the lead is detached from the body. It speaks of "treating a person or group differently". Differently to what? What does the claim "associated with religious persecution mean"? The lead is for key facts not vague assertions. Then a "religious sphere" is mentioned. What on Earth does that mean?

Toward the end is where the lead touches on the other major problem. The real subject, the interference by religious people with certain beliefs who then conduct themselves in a certain way, that then evokes a reaction from others. This major omission, of how religions leads to discrimination itself has thankfully already been discussed on this page. Notice that discussion ended in no resolution? Also the lengthy see also section indicates this article is just a mishmash of vague thoughts.

The cause of this is bias towards the principle of freedom of religion. We should be more neutral. - Shiftchange (talk) 08:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Added a section entitled "China" under the "In Asia" heading
I added information about religious discrimination in China, in order to make the article more diverse.

Here is my bibliography:

Holder, R. (2019). "On the Intersectionality of Religious and Racial Discrimination: A Case Study on the Applicability of ICERD with Respect to China's Uyghur Muslim Minority". Religion & Human Rights. 14(1): 1–30.

Butler, Brennan. "What is happening with the Uighurs in China?". PBS NewsHour. Retrieved 2020-09-30.

"Why is there tension between China and the Uighurs?". BBC News. 2014-09-26. Retrieved 2020-09-30.

"Data leak details China's 'brainwashing system'". BBC News. 2019-11-24. Retrieved 2020-09-30.

Graham-Harrison, Emma (2020-09-24). "China has built 380 internment camps in Xinjiang, study finds". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2020-09-30.

BSC20 (talk) 20:19, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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I think the addition of the section on China was a very good one, with the exception of the following sentence:

"The Chinese government is firmly opposed to all ideologies that deviate from the ideology which it supports, which explains its opposition to religion."

It is true that the Chinese government promotes state atheism, but many people in China including government members practice some form of religion, whether its Chinese Folk Religion, Buddhism, Taoism, Protestantism, Islam, or Catholicism. So to say simply that China opposes religion I think is highly misleading, but perhaps a change to the end of the sentence, changing it to "... which explains its opposition to religion within government." is the way to go, but I am not sure if Mr. Holder would agree with this.

So in the interim, I am temporarily removing the sentence.

Eparaqutam (talk) 08:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

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