Talk:Renault 12

Removed original research
In line with policy and guidelines (see WP:NOR and WP:ATT) I've removed a chunk of recently added info. I've copied it below in case anybody can find a usable reference for it so it can be included in some form. – Kieran T  (' talk ') 21:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Sales in North America were further hampered by the appearance of 3 relatively new features that were considered very dangerous. My father sold Renault cars in northern Ontario in the early 70's and here are the issues, along with the common wisdom of the time: They also had tires from a French company that nobody had heard of called Michelin ... who in America would drive on French tires? Bempey 20:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Front wheel drive "When the tires spin on a corner, you will go off the road and be killed!"
 * Radial tires "Yes, they hold better, but when you hit the limit there is no warning. You will go off the road and be killed!"
 * Halogen head-lights: "Yes you can see better, but you will blind the on-coming driver, who will go off the road, and be killed!"

I think that either this should go back in or the whole bit about the sales in North America should simply be dropped. Here are my reasons: The way it is placed gives the impression the car was thought or designed for the American market, witch it wasn't. The North American market of that time almost dind't consume european cars unless for sports or luxury vehicles. Apart from that, only a few models were in the American consumer's eye. a rather small, 1200cc engined, four door saloon, just wasn't it. Southwestsoul (talk) 16:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Mexico
The Renault 12 was sold in mexico also, they're not too rare. Maybe worth mentioning along with other south american countries. It was probably sold here until 1984, when Renault left Mexico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.146.62.38 (talk) 02:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

error
Hello, The link for Hiedelberg, Australia (In the top section under "Assembly") goes to the Hiedelberg Germany site, not Hiedelberg Australia. Not sure if this means the vehicle was manufactured in Australia and the link is wrong or manufactured in Germany and the information is wrong.

Im not sure how to change it so I thought I would let you know and someone may be able to do it.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.33.230.66 (talk) 06:26, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Done that. Please, if you have a moment, check that I got it right.  (I'm as sure as I can be that there's no Renault plant in Heidelberg, Germany, and I did used to live nearby.)


 * What would be EVEN BETTER would be if someone were to produce a little entry on the plant itself.  You'd only need to start with a few lines, and then with any luck someone would come along and add to it.   Might you be tempted?


 * I've done a few of these simply by copying/translating bits from sources, padded by local background knowledge, and / or other wiki language versions.  But I've never been east of the Murray River (SA bit) in Australia and really would not know where to begin with this plant.   Maybe THIS will inspire you.


 * Well, it doesn't cost to ask.  Regards  Charles01 (talk) 12:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

About Renault 12
I think I seen Renault 12 in a Maggie Mee TV commercial in the 80's. 14.192.214.53 (talk) 12:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but so what? They were a very common car in the '80s. If one appeared today in some retro-vintage style, that might make it to being noteworthy, or if there had been one in the '70s or '80s where it was pivotal to a TV series. But a contemporary advert?  They have to film it with some sort of car.  Also a lot of US adverts around this time used what were obscure imports, with the badges hidden, just to avoid promoting a recognisable local brand. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)